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re: Article on Richt in its entirety - Note the quote by Mason

Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Leghumper
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Note the quote by Mason


Mason should STFU. tired of these spoiled brats calling out the fanbase over every little thing. these kids treat Richt like some of cult leader sometimes..
Posted by Leghumper
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:45 pm to
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but he's also over performed at times


when?...what game?..
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:47 pm to
The only game I can think of when a Richt team obviously over performed was the 2005 SECCG.

ETA: Add 2001 Tennessee to that.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Leghumper
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:50 pm to
2001 UT for sure. we were clearly the better team 2005 vs LSU
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:50 pm to
Add 2009 Georgia Tech
2004 LSU
2012 Florida
2013 South Carolina (no one saw that coming and anyone who says otherwise is lying)
TBH, even though we lost, the way we played against Auburn last year was impressive considering how that season had gone and the injuries we had sustained.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Mason should STFU. tired of these spoiled brats calling out the fanbase over every little thing. these kids treat Richt like some of cult leader sometimes..


The fact that our QB is defending our coach is a good thing. If our players didn't defend our coach I would want that coach gone immediately because it means that he has lost the respect of his players.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:01 pm to
2007 UF/UA/AU?

This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:19 pm to
This whole " averages 10 wins a season.." thing is getting old.

Since 2007 UGA averages 8.7 wins per regular season. Going back further than this is irrelevant (you could argue more than 5 years is irrelevant but I wanted to include our two best, most recent seasons in 2007 and 2012).

Also, what difference does it make how many wins you get if your losses are against your conference/divisional opponents that effectively eliminate you from contention?

This guy needs to sue his alma mater for failing to deliver on their promise to provide him with an education.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:31 pm to
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Mason should STFU. tired of these spoiled brats calling out the fanbase over every little thing.



Yes....The poor persecuted uga fan base! Always being unfairly criticized by those meanie football players. How dare a player stand up for his coach!....

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:32 pm to
How bout 2006 AU? they were ranked in the top 5 and I believe a 15pt favorite.

I'd say we over obviously over performed against Arky and Missou this year
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:36 pm to
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Also, what difference does it make how many wins you get if your losses are against your conference/divisional opponents that effectively eliminate you from


Are you being serious?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:41 pm to
I'll give you 2006 Auburn. Single best coaching job Richt has ever done considering opponent (AU was a much better team) and the nosedive that season had taken.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:55 pm to
I hate this discussion; it gets completely emotional and lacks reason.

There is much more to winning a national championship than the coach. Sometimes you get the perfect team against the perfect schedule at the perfect time and as long as the coach doesn't get in the way, the team will win it all. If it all came down to the head coach, you'd expect Saban to win it every year, but he doesn't. He's had some great teams, but he's often needed much more than that to win his titles.

Conversely, winning a national championship does not mean the coach is great at all (see Gene Chizik). Many coaches have inherited a good or great team and maybe brought in one or two exceptional players that made all the difference in the world.

Bobby Cox coached teams regularly to the playoffs but could only win it once. Bill Belichick is arguably one of the greatest coaches in NFL history and hasn't won a Super Bowl in a decade. If it was all about the coach, championships would be easy.

There are a lot of indicators of a good or great coach, but winning a national championship is not a good one, IMO, though it is the most flashy stat/award that people think about.

Here's a BR link (yeah, I know...) of the worst coaches that have won national titles to help prove my point: Bad coaches with championships
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Are you being serious?


Absolutely. Everything is relative.

I'm not saying every game isn't important...or that it's not sweet to beat GT every year even though it really doesn't get us to our goal of making the SECCG.

What I AM saying is holding up "10 wins" as the gold standard is stupid when the 2 you lose may be the most important two games of the whole season or the only games you play against ranked teams.

We had 10 wins in 2011. Would you consider that a great year? I don't because we then lost the SECCG and lost the bowl game. We went 0-4 against top 20 teams...but we had 10 wins!!

I don't even thing 2007 was a great year because the 2nd loss was to a TN team that lost 4 out of 5 when they played top twenty teams (we were the one win). That loss kept us out of the SECCG and possibly the MNCCG. Sure beating Hawaii was fun...but still.

Of course this whole thing is irrelevant because we've averaged 8.7 regular season wins since 2007 as I stated.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58911 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:55 pm to
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The problem most have with Richt is when his teams lose, it's often to teams with inferior talent.



Couldn't you say the same about every loss Alabama has had in the past 5 years. Or LSU? Or Florida? Or Ohio State? Notre Dame? And yes, Auburn finishes higher than us more often than not.

Using most years, they all have higher rated recruiting classes.

Last year...Clemson finished #8 in the country and Missouri finished #4, so i really don't feel horrible about those. We were beat up badly when we lost to Vandy and got some HORRIBLE calls...but I honestly have nothing for Nebraska.

I guess we need some parameters. When say less talent and more talent, do you mean teams that had lower ranked recruiting classes, or teams that were just...bad? If you mean bad...then I am with you on this years losses. We clearly should have beaten them both.

quote:

He has one of the five most talented rosters in college football nearly every season, but doesn't finish that high very often.


Really? based upon what? because we have not finished in the top 5 recruiting since 2011, and the time before that it was 2006.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58911 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

The only game I can think of when a Richt team obviously over performed was the 2005 SECCG.

ETA: Add 2001 Tennessee to that.




You can add 2012 verses Alabama to that. We were a heavy underdog and almost upset a MUCH better Alabama team.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:01 pm to
06 @ Auburn was definitely an example of over performing. Still one of my favorite games. I thought for sure we were gonna get whooped. Tra Battle still haunts Brandon Cox's dreams I bet.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58911 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:05 pm to
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So you are on the wagon with those that are happy with a 10 win welcome to another toilet bowl season?


Name me 10 better coaches in NCAA football.
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:06 pm to
Half of what is said on here is .

Next time you see Mason, tell him to STFU to his face.

Richt keeps us in the hunt, and we will probably be in the playoffs at least 2 of the next 5 years. He past record against all teams, and our hated rivals is more than acceptable.

I guess since only 5 years is relevant, any coach that doesn't win a natty every 5 years should be fired.

Seriously.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58911 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:07 pm to
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The fact that Kansas State was even ranked 7 to begin with is my point. The average fan can't name three players on that team without google.



While true...the average fan can't name 3 players off Alabama without Google.
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