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re: Anyone else think we'll run the table in classic CMR fashion???
Posted on 11/13/15 at 10:55 am to VoxDawg
Posted on 11/13/15 at 10:55 am to VoxDawg
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South Carolina immediately comes to mind, since they had UNC to start the season, and they close with Clemson. You're only going to find that for SEC teams who have in-state rivals who are in another conference. UGA, SCar, Florida are unique in their rivals not being in the SEC.
True, and a legitimate point. But more years than not we also schedule another, non-rival team. VERY few teams do that.
We do it. South carolina did it this year with N. Carolina. Texas A&M has a rival....Texas, and they don't play them. We don't HAVE to schedule Clemson, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Notre Dame (In the future) and other good solid teams as well as GT. We could go with GT and 3 softies like most teams. LSU had Syracuse and three softies. A&M had Arizona St. and three softies....
Don't get me wrong...I think we all know Richt is not perfect. I think we should also at least TRY to give him a certain amount of credit, too, though.
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:04 am to VoxDawg
Don't get me wrong, guys (VA, Vox, DJSdawg) You ALL are making legitimate and good points. Richt has his faults, and maybe it is time we move on....MAYBE. I guess I just hate to see anybody that has been so good for Georgia get villainized.
And, I am scraed half out of my wits we are going to misfire on the new coach and go into 10 years of a downward spiral.
I know all about you can't run scared and you should move forward etc, etc, etc....but experience with UGA football and work history has taught me when you want change with a coah or a boss, you might get change, but the change MIGHT not be what you want/expect.
And, I am scraed half out of my wits we are going to misfire on the new coach and go into 10 years of a downward spiral.
I know all about you can't run scared and you should move forward etc, etc, etc....but experience with UGA football and work history has taught me when you want change with a coah or a boss, you might get change, but the change MIGHT not be what you want/expect.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:13 am to VoxDawg
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South Carolina immediately comes to mind, since they had UNC to start the season, and they close with Clemson.
Yeah, they really go out of their way to schedule the UVAs, UNCs, and NCSTs of the world. In fact those are the only schools they schedule.
That's not exactly a murderers row there.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:19 am to Porter Osborne Jr
No, I can't fault them for taking the slim pickings in the area. Hell, we start with UNC in the Dome. I was just answering DL's question of who else does it.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 11:43 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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South Carolina immediately comes to mind, since they had UNC to start the season, and they close with Clemson.
Yeah, they really go out of their way to schedule the UVAs, UNCs, and NCSTs of the world. In fact those are the only schools they schedule. That's not exactly a murderers row there.
Meanwhile we go to power houses like Colorado, Arizona st, and Oklahoma st.....and unc.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:06 pm to djsdawg
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Meanwhile we go to power houses like Colorado, Arizona st, and Oklahoma st.....and unc.
That's cool. Did USCe play anyone else worth a damn? Because we played Clemson four times, top 10 Boise, and a 9-4 Oklahoma State all in the same time frame as USCe playing six games against teams that are continually well below .500. But hey, that doesn't fit with the narrative with some of you folks.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:44 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I just think its funny that you are acting like Uga has played a group of strong programs ooc when the majority have been the same type of weaklings sc has played.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:46 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
What else would they have to bitch about then. Don't take scheduling away
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:48 pm to djsdawg
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I just think its funny that you are acting like Uga has played a group of strong programs ooc when the majority have been the same type of weaklings sc has played.
Yeah, except we played way more games against teams with better winning percentages and more top 10 finishes (which they've never done since we're not counting our instate rivals) or even a top 25 team (which they've also never done until this year).
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:11 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
We knew Colorado sucked when we signed them up, and so asu and osu weren't much better, while Boise was nothing special going into that first game. That's the majority of the games right there.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:23 pm to djsdawg
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I just think its funny that you are acting like Uga has played a group of strong programs ooc when the majority have been the same type of weaklings sc has played.
I think the point is being missed. My point is we play TWO OOC teams that are power 5 teams. True USCe did it this year. But very few teams do that. We do it MOST years. I realize Florida plays Florida State, but don't they usually follow that up with three weak opponents. Florida A&M and people like that? While many may play ONE team, (A&M, Alabama and LSU this year) they then follow it up with three Non-Power 5 teams. People keep pointing out that Richt pads his wins against Kentucky, Vanderbilt, etc (as does EVERYBODY in the nation) very few then play TWO Power 5 teams as OOC games. Hope this clears up my point.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:36 pm to djsdawg
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I just think its funny that you are acting like Uga has played a group of strong programs ooc when the majority have been the same type of weaklings sc has played.
Lets take a look at Auburn's OOC schedule the last 5 years:
2015
Louisville
Jax State
San Jose State
Idaho
2014
San Jose State
Kansas State
Louisiana Tech
Samford
2013
Washington State
Arkansas State
Western Carolina
Florida Atlantic
2012
Clemson
University of Louisiana at Monroe
New Mexico State
Alabama A&M
2011
Utah State
Clemson
Florida Atlantic
Samford
See what I mean? One team a year with a pulse then three cupcakes. We TYPICALLY schedule 2 teams with a pulse and two cupcakes. Then our permanent West opponent is Auburn....which is usually a pretty tough draw. So, that's why I don't totally buy into the "Richt pads his win totals against cupcake" argument.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:44 pm to djsdawg
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We knew Colorado sucked when we signed them up, and so asu and osu weren't much better, while Boise was nothing special going into that first game. That's the majority of the games right there.
Boise was ranked #5.(2012) #18 in 2005
Clemson was #8 and #16
Oklahoma State was #9
and GT was ranked 4 or 5 times dating back to 2005.
Show me another team that has scheduled 9-10 ranked teams in the past 10 years OOC. They will be far and few between, I can assure you. Doesn't matter that GT is a rival. We still play them every year and we still choose to schedule another tough team to play.
ETA
I concede that these rankings were rankings at the time we played them, and not final rankings.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:16 pm to DawgsLife
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So, that's why I don't totally buy into the "Richt pads his win totals against cupcake" argument.
I tried my best to make it pretty clear. You can get one game away from bowl-eligible by 3 cupcakes, Vandy and Kentucky. Even the injury-decimated Dawgs of 2013 hung pretty tough with Mizzou till the end.
Without knowing anything about OOC scheduling for a given year, Tennessee and Florida are likely our toughest games. Auburn, historically, is literally a toss up. It's dead even. Thankfully, Richt has owned the Barn. The true wild card on any schedule is the other team from the West that rotates in.
CMR typically sleepwalks to 7 wins. It looks like they want a big OOC game every other year, which is great to me. So long as we're ready for it, I'm down with that.
At least a dozen people in this thread have said it - it's not Richt's wins that bother us so much as the losses, and by extension how those losses come.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:28 pm to VoxDawg
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At least a dozen people in this thread have said it - it's not Richt's wins that bother us so much as the losses, and by extension how those losses come.
Even in our best years...we get blown out. Remember USCe in 2012?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:46 pm to djsdawg
We played six teams that finished in the top 25. They've played none. That's half the P5 teams we've played plus BSU. But keep on telling me how the majority of our OOCS P5 teams are like theirs.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:10 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Regular season ooc opponents who finished ranked from 02-15:
Sc 11
Uga 7
And that's gonna go to 12 when they play clemson.
Sc 11
Uga 7
And that's gonna go to 12 when they play clemson.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:20 pm to djsdawg
Take out Clemson and what do they have? We were talking about the secondary P5 schools. And there is no way your totals are right for UGA unless Tech has only finished in the top 25 twice in 15 years.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 5:05 pm to VoxDawg
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I tried my best to make it pretty clear. You can get one game away from bowl-eligible by 3 cupcakes
True. But if you read my post, I just showed you that we typically on schedule two cupcakes. You're an angry guy, aren't you?
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It looks like they want a big OOC game every other year, which is great to me.
Actually, if you look at our schedule over the last 10 years we have had two tough OOC opponents every year but 1 or 2.
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CMR typically sleepwalks to 7 wins.
I never argued this point. What I said was that every coach in the country typically has 7 easy wins, IF they have a decent team and they are a decent coach.
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At least a dozen people in this thread have said it - it's not Richt's wins that bother us so much as the losses, and by extension how those losses come.
And if you read my posts, I have said I can agree with this point. Except it is not the losses themselves, as almost every coach in the country has the same number of losses or more...but rather your point of the size of the losses. Either you are not reading my posts, or you have become conditioned to respond in a certain way.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 5:07 pm to tissle
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Even in our best years...we get blown out. Remember USCe in 2012?
My problem with talking to you guys, is first you want to say he pads his win record, then when I respond to that and show that simply is not true you want to switch the argument to "It's how we lose the games."
If you will choose your argument and stick with it, maybe we can talk. But if you want to switch the argument everytime someone shows you you are incorrect, then it is impossible to talk.
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