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A new HC - what are our expectations?

Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:03 am
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3592 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:03 am
Let's assume that a new Head Coach is hired for next year. Pick a reasonable candidate if you want.

How long a contract would you be prepared to give him?

What performance would you be satisfied with in year 1,2,3,4?

What performance would cause you to terminate his contract and start looking again?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:08 am to
I'd be willing to pay whatever it takes to bring an elite coach to Georgia. Around $6M most likely.

Need at least 4-5 year contract for recruiting purposes.

Expectations by year sort of depend on how the transition goes down.
Posted by tissle
Member since Jul 2009
1954 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:12 am to
I want a coach that scares our opponent's fanbase.
If you ask any of our rivals about Richt (sans Tech), they will say keep him forever.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21730 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:31 am to
My expectations are another 400 of these stupid fricking threads with the same shite talked about. What are your expectations from this thread?
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3592 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:38 am to
I expect a few salty responses, and a few more articulate.Thanks for not disappointing.

Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:16 am to
quote:

I'd be willing to pay whatever it takes to bring an elite coach to Georgia.

I mean... all of us would say that. At the same time, none of us should be expecting that. UGA has never done it that way.

We would hire someone affordable who we would hope turns into an elite coach.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21730 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:18 am to
quote:

a few more articulate.


Go read one of the other 35 threads on this topic...you will find what you are looking for.
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3592 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:51 am to
Well, so far no one here has said what record would satisfy them in the first four years. I just want to know who's thought this through.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 9:54 am to
If we do hire someone new, I would want the average record in the first 4 years to match what Richt has done. somewhere between 9-3 and 10-2.

Probably high expectations but I don't see the need for a change if we don't get that output. All the resources are here.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44721 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:29 am to
Year 1: Systems fully in place, start developing a QB, team improves as the season has gone on.

Year 2: Finish top 15, at the very least be in the conversation for a NY6 bowl.

Year 3: Be a legitimate playoff contender.

Make the playoff by Year 4 or 5.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26172 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Pick a reasonable candidate if you want.


Tom Herman
Justin Fuente
Jimbo Fisher (least realistic of the three but he'd get a call)

quote:

How long a contract would you be prepared to give him?



3-4 years

quote:

What performance would you be satisfied with in year 1,2,3,4?



No less than 8-9 wins in year one. Improvement every year after.

quote:

What performance would cause you to terminate his contract and start looking again?



Back to back 6 win seasons but it would vary depending on the situation.

If he goes 8-4 every year for 4 years, can him.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:52 am to
quote:

If you ask any of our rivals about Richt (sans Tech), they will say keep him forever.


Auburn? Tennessee?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:54 am to
Realistic?

Look at every coach we've hired since Dooley left. Promoted Coordinators, as a whole...ok, Donnan.

I would be shocked if we went after an established, successful HC.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6940 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 2:03 pm to
Herman, Fuente, Mullen, others.
5 year contract with 1st 4 years guaranteed. No buyout after 4 years.
8 wins in year 1.
9 in year 2.
10 in year 3.
SEC East title by year 3.

Less than 10 wins and East title after 4 years - goodbye.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:09 pm to
well considering everyone claims, what CMR has done is no big deal and anyone can win 8-9 games a year at UGA, then a great hire should be expected to..

1st year - win 10 and at least 2nd in the division
2nd year - win 11 and win the division, GO TO NY6 finish top 10
3rd year - win 11-12 and win the conference and make CFP
4TH - WIN THE WHOLE DANG THING

anything less and he should be fired!

remember CMR won the conference and finished 3rd in the country in his 2nd year
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:15 pm to
Let's assume that a new Head Coach is hired for next year. Pick a reasonable candidate if you want.
Haven't done enough research, nor would I be qualified to do such research, to give a legit answer. I'd just be happy with some new blood in there that is given a long enough leash to do their thing and make the program their own instead of being hired to come in and keep things going the "Georgia Way"

How long a contract would you be prepared to give him?
5 Years

What performance would you be satisfied with in year 1,2,3,4?
Decent given the talent, Decent, Good, Very Good

What performance would cause you to terminate his contract and start looking again?
Inability to win the big ones that we are supposed to win and inability to win a few of the ones we aren't supposed to win. A pattern 2015 UA, UT or UF losses and time to put him out to pasture
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:20 pm to
Also..
Urban Meyer won it in 2nd year at UF and 3rd yr at tOSU

Saban, year 3 at Bama

Miles, Year 3 at Bama

Fisher, Year 4 at FSU .


National Champs by 4th year or contract is termintated...
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Urban Meyer won it in 2nd year at UF and 3rd yr at tOSU
Saban, year 3 at Bama
Miles, Year 3 at Bama
Fisher, Year 4 at FSU .
National Champs by 4th year or contract is termintated...

This is why I can't get on board the fire Richt campaign. You know what all of those guys had in common (aside from Fisher)? They were established head coaches who had won at other major schools before showing up and winning titles. Hell, even Fisher was head coach in waiting for like 10 years at FSU.

Those are not the kinds of guys UGA targets in a HC search. If you hire Herman or Fuente and are expecting a NC by year 4 and will accept nothing less, you're out of your damn mind.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:43 pm to
I completely agree with you , that was the point of my post . to show how unreasonable expectations are.

It's impossible, but unless you can guarantee me a title in 4 years; I have no interest in blowing up the program and losing this years recruiting class; setting us back more years.

I think its more reasonable to , have an understanding with CMR , that UGA expects to be in the playoffs and winning the SEC by 2018; if he can't get it done, then its time to blow it up.
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:47 pm to
Guaranteed natty or not, I think the program just needs some new life. CMR hasn't gotten it done and by the statistics (and the eye test) has significantly regressed.
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