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re: 8-4 Isn't All That Bad
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:40 pm to K9
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:40 pm to K9
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8 wins would be progress to you? wtf
9 wins would be progress, but it shouldn't be, because he should have won 10 games this year.
he needs to win the East next year to make me, and I'm sure many others, feel confident in his abilities.
UTk will be a mess, USCe is at home, Vandy and Tech should be revenge wins, UK is our bitch, ND is a mess, AU who knows, and UF has been beatable for 7 years.
No excuse to lose more than 2, and even that is being generous, IF he is who we thought he would be.
Anything less than 9-3 is unacceptable. The schedule is very manageable and barring injuries, 9-10 wins should be doable.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:47 pm to K9
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he needs to win the East next year to make me, and I'm sure many others, feel confident in his abilities.
Kirby Smart won't win the East next year or any other year. With the possible exception of UNC and Auburn, Smart and his staff got out-coached in every game this year. And before that they got outcoached in the offseason, when young athletes are taught how to play football as a team. It's obvious to everyone, except Georgia fans too embarrassed to admit we screwed up, that Smart is way over his head.
And Malzahn is still a better coach than Smart, his brain cramp against us notwithstanding. Frickin' Paul Johnson was playing 3-D chess compared to Kirby's tiddly winks, and he will consistently beat Smart even using a bunch of inferior athletes. Smart is the worst head coach in the SEC right now and it won't take recruits long to figure that out. If he lasts more than two years, we'll be digging out of a Tennessee sized hole for the next decade.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:23 pm to wdhalgren
Lots of coaches struggle in their first season.
Lots of offenses struggle in their first season.
Lots of defenses struggle in their first season.
Continuity goes a long way. Having depth on the roster goes a long way (kirby is a good enough recruiter to fill that depth... it isn't a shocker that our defense implodes in the 4th quarter when 3 defensive backs get nicked up.)
We are a very bad team. But we are a young team (young coaches and young players). So long as we aren't churning our roster like tennessee, we will be fine. So long as we aren't dropping players like Richt's last decade, we will be fine.
There are a lot of 'ifs' that need to go better. But a steady ship will lead to championships.
Lots of offenses struggle in their first season.
Lots of defenses struggle in their first season.
Continuity goes a long way. Having depth on the roster goes a long way (kirby is a good enough recruiter to fill that depth... it isn't a shocker that our defense implodes in the 4th quarter when 3 defensive backs get nicked up.)
We are a very bad team. But we are a young team (young coaches and young players). So long as we aren't churning our roster like tennessee, we will be fine. So long as we aren't dropping players like Richt's last decade, we will be fine.
There are a lot of 'ifs' that need to go better. But a steady ship will lead to championships.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:24 pm to K9
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he needs to win the East next year to make me, and I'm sure many others, feel confident in his abilities.
I'm afraid you're setting yourself up for disappointment. On the other hand, I think he has the potential, just not in year two.
I never expected Kirby to be Saban Jr. nor did I expect him to outdo Richt from the start so I won't be disappointed if he gives us incremental improvement and a culture change.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:26 pm to meansonny
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Lots of coaches struggle in their first season.
Lots of offenses struggle in their first season.
Lots of defenses struggle in their first season.
Continuity goes a long way. Having depth on the roster goes a long way (kirby is a good enough recruiter to fill that depth... it isn't a shocker that our defense implodes in the 4th quarter when 3 defensive backs get nicked up.)
We are a very bad team. But we are a young team (young coaches and young players). So long as we aren't churning our roster like tennessee, we will be fine. So long as we aren't dropping players like Richt's last decade, we will be fine.
There are a lot of 'ifs' that need to go better. But a steady ship will lead to championships.
Nah dude. UGA is fricked for decades at least.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:27 pm to meansonny
I agree. But if we don't see clear signs that this staff know what the frick they're doing by early to mid next season, then we're in deeeeep trouble as a football program.
And I'm talking on the field. You can only preach recruiting and brick by brick before you turn into what Tennessee became this year.
If that is the case, we may be getting ready to wander in the wilderness for a decade or so. I pray that doesn't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.
And I'm talking on the field. You can only preach recruiting and brick by brick before you turn into what Tennessee became this year.
If that is the case, we may be getting ready to wander in the wilderness for a decade or so. I pray that doesn't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:30 pm to BranchDawg
Tennessee's problem was that Kiffin's recruiting class all bailed and then Dooley recruited like shite. If Smart doesn't do those things, we'll be ok even if he fails.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:30 pm to BranchDawg
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This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:32 pm to BranchDawg
Even if it takes more than 2 years... so long as the roster management doesn't get effed up, we will get there.
It is hard to overcome 4 years of bad offensive line recruiting in 1 season. It is hard to do it in 2 seasons.
Defensively, we have to build up the secondary depth. We need more OLB.
If it doesn't happen in '17, it is not the end of the world so long as we don't take any steps backward in roster management (losing 3 DBs to arrests/transfers, pulling a tennessee and losing tons of talented under-classmen)
It is hard to overcome 4 years of bad offensive line recruiting in 1 season. It is hard to do it in 2 seasons.
Defensively, we have to build up the secondary depth. We need more OLB.
If it doesn't happen in '17, it is not the end of the world so long as we don't take any steps backward in roster management (losing 3 DBs to arrests/transfers, pulling a tennessee and losing tons of talented under-classmen)
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:35 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Tennessee's problem was that Kiffin's recruiting class all bailed and then Dooley recruited like shite. If Smart doesn't do those things, we'll be ok even if he fails.
That wasn't the only problem. Butch was processing his own freshmen. What good is a recruiting class if they don't stay around to contribute as upper-classmen. Otherwise, you are churning freshmen starters who are going to screw up.
Lord knows... we've seen atrophy and roster mismanagement under richt to know how it can kill a season (how many grad transfers walk in and start... how many freshmen walk in and start)
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:35 pm to DragginFly
I think Shotenhiemer was a better OC and that made me puke thinking about that. We got beat by inferior talent with supposedly better coaches. I'm just finding a hard time seeing any positives now. I can't think of anything about this year that makes me think we had anything remotely close to a successful year.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:39 pm to ugastreaker
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I think Shotenhiemer was a better OC and that made me puke thinking about that. We got beat by inferior talent with supposedly better coaches. I'm just finding a hard time seeing any positives now. I can't think of anything about this year that makes me think we had anything remotely close to a successful year.
This is what you get when you start a freshman in a pro style offense.
If you wanted to win this season, play Lambert. He honestly would have run the offense better than Eason. But where would we be? A 9-10 win team with no experience going into next year. The growing pains are worth it.
We are a bad team. But we are a bad young team. We have a high ceiling. It might hit in 2017. But I wouldn't be surprised if it takes to 2018 to get the offense going (offensive line needs will probably play 4 guys at new positions next year).
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:40 pm to meansonny
Jim Chaney is a young coach?
Mel Tucker?
Mel Tucker?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:49 pm to DragginFly
You may not have expected him to out do Richt but that is the exact reason his hired tfor this job.
And it wasn't supposed to take 3 years.
And it wasn't supposed to take 3 years.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:51 pm to meansonny
I thought the arguement last year was ANYONE could win 9-10 games at UGA. Dang near this exact same team won 10 games last year....so the blame is on Eason? He's got a lot of growing up to do but I still think he was an upgrade from Lambert. So what else is different?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:54 pm to K9
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You may not have expected him to out do Richt but that is the exact reason his hired tfor this job.
And it wasn't supposed to take 3 years.
2 years of bad isn't worth an sec championship?
Ok. Whatever.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:55 pm to K9
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And it wasn't supposed to take 3 years.
Yeah? Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:56 pm to ugastreaker
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He's got a lot of growing up to do but I still think he was an upgrade from Lambert
Lambert had a better QB efficiency than a true freshman. That shouldnt be a shocker.
If Eason was the mad bomber and missing guys and inefficient... that would be one thing.
But Eason is missing the easy target worse than any QB we've had in 16 years. He has a lot of developing to do. Year 2 with the OC and receivers will help. But Eason has to help himself and play better.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:56 pm to meansonny
What makes you think 2-4 years gets us to Atlanta? Again, we didn't beat anyone this year we shouldn't have beat and we lost to teams with inferior talent. That's not exactly trending in the right way.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:58 pm to meansonny
Is that guaranteed to happen? Like I said if could win 10 games next year, which any good coach could do with our talent and schedule, it would make me feel really good about 2018.
But right now nothing he has done is encouraging to me. If he gets a national top five recruiting ranking that would be a start.
But right now nothing he has done is encouraging to me. If he gets a national top five recruiting ranking that would be a start.
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