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re: Yates leaving for Boise
Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:06 pm to tmc94
Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:06 pm to tmc94
interesting thread on the Nebraska board about their DB coach, Terry Joseph. He was previously the UT DB coach and recruiting coordinator under Dooley and is from LA.
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Its no real secret he wants back into the SEC/south.
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Honestly, not sure if I would want to coach under this type of pressure at Nebraska. This has been a brutal year for the staff, and the talent he can bring in at Nebraska will have have some limits. Why not go to TAMU where the staff is considered on solid ground and he can bring with SEC talent on a daily basis. Just trying to put myself in his shoes.
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For the record, I am a fan of TJ. I think his DB's have been under tremendous pressure, given the front 7 has been average to below average for a few years. The players love him, and the more DB's that he produces to the NFL, the better recruits, I feel, will come to Neb. I hope Nebraska offers him a raise, assuming he may be shopping around.
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:19 pm to tmc94
Terry Joseph's salary is $245k. Every single A&M assistant made more than that this year. Yates made $368k.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 12/18/13 at 3:26 pm to tmc94
I know nothing about Nebraska's DBs lately but I thought I remember UT pulling some pretty big recruits under Dooley
Posted on 12/18/13 at 4:29 pm to Projectpat
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Someone on 247 just put up a Sumner-Gardner to Boise St. prediction.
Isn't DSG an early enrollee?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:49 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Can't imagine DSG is a threat to bolt. He's an early enrollee and it is the dead period. I don't see him suddenly deciding to move to Idaho to follow a coach after being a solid A&M commit for a year. He's probably about to move to his place in CS.
I am not concerned at all about this. I liked Yates and think he was a good recruiter and coach but he wasn't someone irreplaceable, very mixed bag.
For instance, he is known as a good recruiter and our LA guy but in the end we still haven't really beaten out LSU for anyone head to head from LA. Even with Speedy who seems to be our best chance it is well known that Sumlin is personally involved in that. It's about closing, not being considered.
As a position coach you can look at Harris and maybe Hurd and Ellis as guys that have developed but Raven, Matthews, and even Everett have regressed. Everett was our strongest DB but seemed like a liability by the end of the year, the CB/Safety switch clearly was screwing him up. Some can be blamed on the Front 7 for sure but we also got flat out beat a lot in the secondary this year and it wasn't from lack of speed or aggressiveness, it was guys being in the wrong place, taking bad angles, or just not following their assignments. I hold Yates to a higher standard as well because he had the stronger talent/experience mix than the DL or LB's and he held the Co-DC Title.
I am also excited because there are multiple enticing candidates out there. Cooper, Akina, Robinson, the Edna Karr coach, the NU guy, etc. There are at least 5 guys that should be available that look like home runs and that we should be able to get if we want them.
The guys I wouldn't want to lose on this staff are Beaty, McKinney (esp now that he is going back to RB's), Price, Jackson, Spav, and Snyder. Yates was probably after that with Banks and Anderson. Hagen hasn't shown me anything but I will give him a mulligan for this year due to what he inherited but if the LB's aren't a BIG improvement next year he needs to go.
I am not concerned at all about this. I liked Yates and think he was a good recruiter and coach but he wasn't someone irreplaceable, very mixed bag.
For instance, he is known as a good recruiter and our LA guy but in the end we still haven't really beaten out LSU for anyone head to head from LA. Even with Speedy who seems to be our best chance it is well known that Sumlin is personally involved in that. It's about closing, not being considered.
As a position coach you can look at Harris and maybe Hurd and Ellis as guys that have developed but Raven, Matthews, and even Everett have regressed. Everett was our strongest DB but seemed like a liability by the end of the year, the CB/Safety switch clearly was screwing him up. Some can be blamed on the Front 7 for sure but we also got flat out beat a lot in the secondary this year and it wasn't from lack of speed or aggressiveness, it was guys being in the wrong place, taking bad angles, or just not following their assignments. I hold Yates to a higher standard as well because he had the stronger talent/experience mix than the DL or LB's and he held the Co-DC Title.
I am also excited because there are multiple enticing candidates out there. Cooper, Akina, Robinson, the Edna Karr coach, the NU guy, etc. There are at least 5 guys that should be available that look like home runs and that we should be able to get if we want them.
The guys I wouldn't want to lose on this staff are Beaty, McKinney (esp now that he is going back to RB's), Price, Jackson, Spav, and Snyder. Yates was probably after that with Banks and Anderson. Hagen hasn't shown me anything but I will give him a mulligan for this year due to what he inherited but if the LB's aren't a BIG improvement next year he needs to go.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:23 am to aggressor
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I hold Yates to a higher standard as well because he had the stronger talent/experience mix than the DL or LB's and he held the Co-DC Title.
I hold him to a higher standard because he did much better with much less talent at Boise.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:46 pm to Projectpat
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Someone on 247 just put up a Sumner-Gardner to Boise St. prediction.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:10 pm to Projectpat
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