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Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:15 am to Warrior Poet
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:44 am to Warrior Poet
8 year window of each.
A. 25.2 - 12.5 - 3.0 - 3.8 - 1.9 - 51.4% - 73.6%
B. 22.5 - 12.2 - 3.1 - 2.5 - 0.8 - 50.7% - 69.2%
C. 25.5 - 11.7 - 3.1 - 3.6 - 1.7 - 52.5% - 74.6%
Very very similar statistically.
Playoff #s
A. 25.6 - 11.2 - 3.2 - 3.3 - 1.7 - 52.8% - 71.9%
B. 20.6 - 11.4 - 3.0 - 2.3 - 0.7 - 50.1% - 68.9%
C. 18.1 - 10.6 - 2.3 - 2.5 - 1.2 - 47.9% - 70.8%
Huge dip for C, but still very strong.
Lets look at playoff #s, but try to focus more on the prime years so I'll do 34 and under.
A. 27.3 - 11.6 - 3.4 - 3.4 - 1.7 - 53.5% - 71.7%
B. 22.7 - 12.4 - 3.4 - 2.6 - 0.7 - 50.2% - 67.8%
C. 20.4 - 11.0 - 2.6 - 2.8 - 1.3 - 47.4% - 71.7%
Improvement from each, but it seems pretty clear to me that A is the best scorer and shot blocker while raises his level of play in the postseason as compared to his prime years regular season stats. While looking at his younger years B. was nice and steady with his playoff production as his prime years int he regular season. He also had a very small dip from his prime years to his entire playoff stats which is similar to A as well. Now for C. He clearly was a better regular season player. Statically I would say his regular season was better than B's and not far from A's. But his drop off is real.
Now this is just stats and it doesn't take in to effect # of games played in the postseason, longevity of careers, accolades won, and level of competition they went up against.
Now who is A, B, & C?
A. 25.2 - 12.5 - 3.0 - 3.8 - 1.9 - 51.4% - 73.6%
B. 22.5 - 12.2 - 3.1 - 2.5 - 0.8 - 50.7% - 69.2%
C. 25.5 - 11.7 - 3.1 - 3.6 - 1.7 - 52.5% - 74.6%
Very very similar statistically.
Playoff #s
A. 25.6 - 11.2 - 3.2 - 3.3 - 1.7 - 52.8% - 71.9%
B. 20.6 - 11.4 - 3.0 - 2.3 - 0.7 - 50.1% - 68.9%
C. 18.1 - 10.6 - 2.3 - 2.5 - 1.2 - 47.9% - 70.8%
Huge dip for C, but still very strong.
Lets look at playoff #s, but try to focus more on the prime years so I'll do 34 and under.
A. 27.3 - 11.6 - 3.4 - 3.4 - 1.7 - 53.5% - 71.7%
B. 22.7 - 12.4 - 3.4 - 2.6 - 0.7 - 50.2% - 67.8%
C. 20.4 - 11.0 - 2.6 - 2.8 - 1.3 - 47.4% - 71.7%
Improvement from each, but it seems pretty clear to me that A is the best scorer and shot blocker while raises his level of play in the postseason as compared to his prime years regular season stats. While looking at his younger years B. was nice and steady with his playoff production as his prime years int he regular season. He also had a very small dip from his prime years to his entire playoff stats which is similar to A as well. Now for C. He clearly was a better regular season player. Statically I would say his regular season was better than B's and not far from A's. But his drop off is real.
Now this is just stats and it doesn't take in to effect # of games played in the postseason, longevity of careers, accolades won, and level of competition they went up against.
Now who is A, B, & C?
Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:39 am to Farmer1906
Doesn't matter, Hakeem owned/dominated Shaq, Robinson, and Ewing in playoff games that mattered.
Owned them, and dirk couldn't carry any of their jocks either
Duncan is an all time great but he transcends just being labeled a big man, Duncan/Hakeem is apples and oranges
Owned them, and dirk couldn't carry any of their jocks either
Duncan is an all time great but he transcends just being labeled a big man, Duncan/Hakeem is apples and oranges
Posted on 7/12/16 at 12:58 pm to Old Sarge
quote:
Duncan/Hakeem is apples and oranges
Hakeem's oranges:
Duncan's apples:
How u like dem?
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 1:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Hakeem in 1993 was more impressive than any of Duncan's titles. Duncan played his entire career with HOF teammates. I don't think the '93 team even had another All-Star except for Sam Cassell and he was a rookie off the bench.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 1:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Duncan has a damn fine resume. Probably one of the most spotless and deep career's ever, but I don't think too many people mistake him for better than Dream.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 1:42 pm to Farmer1906
Cinco>>>dos
Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:37 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Robert Horry - 7
Using your logic, he's better than Timmy too.
Using your logic, he's better than Timmy too.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:07 pm to Farmer1906
Timmy made him better 
Horry sends Timmy thank you cards.
Horry sends Timmy thank you cards.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:15 pm to Iosh
quote:
Hakeem in 1993 was more impressive than any of Duncan's titles
Come on man!
The Rockets only won those titles because Jordan was out of the game. Nice try though.
-I'm a noted Spurs hater so it
that I'm defending them.Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:24 pm to FleurDeLonestar
Posted on 7/12/16 at 3:41 pm to FleurDeLonestar
quote:I'm not sure what bearing that has on the comparison I made. Was Jordan in the league for any of the Spurs' titles?
Come on man!
The Rockets only won those titles because Jordan was out of the game. Nice try though.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 5:37 pm to FleurDeLonestar
Read the title, thought it was about race relations...
But Tim was a helluva player, and the best power forward of all time. I hated him as a Mavs fan growing up, but learned to respect him and appreciate how special of a player he truly was.
But Tim was a helluva player, and the best power forward of all time. I hated him as a Mavs fan growing up, but learned to respect him and appreciate how special of a player he truly was.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 6:06 pm to Dawgsontop34
I had the exact same transition in my thought process with Dirk
2003 Tbird fricking HATED that gangly mofo with a release point so high it should be illegal
Now I know I'll miss the big Kraut when he walks away.
Word to the wise: don't watch too many tribute vids at work or you'll be answering questions about your allergies all day lol.
2003 Tbird fricking HATED that gangly mofo with a release point so high it should be illegal
Now I know I'll miss the big Kraut when he walks away.
Word to the wise: don't watch too many tribute vids at work or you'll be answering questions about your allergies all day lol.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:44 pm to Iosh
I think he actually might have been I can't remember if he had "come back" yet.
But at least the Spurs played and beat the best in the finals - Kobe/Shaq. Hell, they made Lebron quit twice ... Literally.
But at least the Spurs played and beat the best in the finals - Kobe/Shaq. Hell, they made Lebron quit twice ... Literally.
Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:48 pm to Warrior Poet
Everyone said penny/Shaq was the best in the finals until 4-0 happened
Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:49 pm to Warrior Poet
Timmy's Spurs won the first post-Jordan title, swept the lakers out of their last playoff series at the Great Western Forum, outlasted and ended the Kobe/Shaq lakers title streak, outlasted and defeated the SSoL Suns, outlasted and defeated the mid-00's Pistons, outlasted and defeated LeBron's Cavs Part I, outlasted the lakers' Renaissance, withstood and repaid the Grizzlies' upstart, outlasted and defeated all iterations of the Kevin Durant Thunder to date, and outlasted/defeated the Heatles.
When you recount NBA history, you cannot speak of the post-Jordan era without speaking of the legend who led the Quiet Guys You Should Fear
When you recount NBA history, you cannot speak of the post-Jordan era without speaking of the legend who led the Quiet Guys You Should Fear
Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:59 pm to Warrior Poet
quote:he was in Cleveland for like 3 more years after his first loss to the spurs
Hell, they made Lebron quit twice ... Literally.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:05 pm to WestCoastAg
Yeah, WP got a little excited and jumped the gun on that one
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