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re: Top OC/DC combos in CFB

Posted on 6/9/16 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 2:59 pm to
Link?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:05 pm to
And then it came out Sumlin lied to cover his arse, Allen WAS playing injured and his shitty play against Bama and OM was the result of him playing hurt so Sumlin could hide Kyler's suspension.

I was operating at the time under the assumption our coach WASNT a complete piece of shite. My bad.
Posted by jbrau22
Waco, TX
Member since Jun 2007
2134 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:09 pm to
FWIW, I think your program is far better off with Kyler Murray out of it. Dude was never going to be an SEC-caliber QB. He may even succeed at OU bc we all know the Little XII doesn't play defense. But that rainbow throwing, blown over by a gust of wind, pretentious kid was never going to be good for y'all. I have rarely ever hated on a kid, but if half of the rumors about him and his old man are true, you guys are way better off. That, and he wasn't a talented qb.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2624 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:55 pm to
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We'll be ranked in the top 10 by week 4


And if we finish with only 7 or 8 wins on the season again after that start for the third year in a row, Sumlin better pack his bags.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3002 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

And then it came out Sumlin lied to cover his arse, Allen WAS playing injured and his shitty play against Bama and OM was the result of him playing hurt so Sumlin could hide Kyler's suspension.

I was operating at the time under the assumption our coach WASNT a complete piece of shite. My bad.

Haha ok.

Just so everyone is on the same page, your previous character assessments and player evaluations were completely wrong and your current character assessments and player evaluations are now completely accurate. Is that right?
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 4:14 pm to
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Dude was never going to be an SEC-caliber QB.


That's what it comes down to. Forget all the stuff about his attitude and his dad. While true, that's beside the point. He was too small and slightly built to succeed in this league without an insane cannon arm and excellent decision-making and offensive command to offset it, which he didn't have. He succeeded in HS because he was surrounded by players that were all better than their counterparts due to Allen HS having like 10,000 students per class and he was fast enough to escape contact. In the SEC, where the defenses are often superior to their counterparts on offense and the other guys are as fast or faster than he is, he didn't stand a chance at 5'5", 135, primarily running the ball. Unfortunately, we didn't get to just cut bait and move on in a vacuum. Instead, he made a public display of leaving, and it became a giant fiasco that hurt our recruiting.
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58071 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 4:20 pm to
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- Tyrion Lannister


Tyrion is a boss who gets things done in spite of what life dealt him physically.

Kyler was much more like Joffrey. A spoiled brat, completely toxic, and oblivious to everything but his own desires.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7956 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 4:33 pm to
Ah, I see its that time of year where everything is clear as to why we fell flat last year and we all know the problem is fixed.

Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7956 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 4:38 pm to



Ah, I see its that time of year where RK is compounding delusion upon delusion.
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4195 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Ah, I see its that time of year where everything is clear as to why we fell flat last year and we all know the problem should be fixed.


I mean this is correct. I feel like all the big weak links talked about in the staff over the past few years have been culled. There's only one more place for the finger to point if there isn't success next year.

But yes I do get where you're coming from.
Posted by gvwheeler
Member since Oct 2013
740 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 5:39 pm to
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Tyrion Lannister
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 5:41 pm to
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That's a lot of denial


Is this thread where you give me another sig quote? That would be great, because the original is da bomb.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:01 pm to
This is why everyone is pushing out stories about Sumlin on the "hot seat". They don't want A&M to get it right. The recent commitment from the building of the athletic facilities to the snagging of "elite" coaches from top notch programs like LSU and UCLA has them freaking out. Brick Haley from the Sips would have been the icing on the cake, but his son's condition kept Haley in Austin.
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
796 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:00 pm to
Applewhite kinda destroyed the credibility of the article.

Rodo
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3002 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:10 am to
Agree that he's overrated. If he was any good, he would have accomplished a little bit more after a decade as OC. But he'll benefit nicely from working under Herman.

The rest of the list looks pretty good. Maybe TCU should be on there?
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:55 am to
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And then it came out Sumlin lied to cover his arse, Allen WAS playing injured and his shitty play against Bama and OM was the result of him playing hurt so Sumlin could hide Kyler's suspension.


Multiple times from multiple perspectives we heard that it was Kyle Allen who told the staff he was ready to go. Allen even discussed this during the pre-LSU game footage starting at the 1 min mark. At the 2 min mark he says he sprained his AC during the Ole Miss game and not the Bama game, but he told staff he could continue.

LINK
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 4:12 am to
quote:

And then it came out Sumlin lied to cover his arse, Allen WAS playing injured and his shitty play against Bama and OM was the result of him playing hurt so Sumlin could hide Kyler's suspension.


Multiple times from multiple perspectives we heard that it was Kyle Allen who told the staff he was ready to go. Allen even discussed this during the pre-LSU game footage starting at the 1 min mark. At the 2 min mark he says he sprained his AC during the Ole Miss game and not the Bama game, but he told staff he could continue.

LINK

I accidentally ran into Kyle Allen before the 2014 game at the team hotel. Poor body language and he was already distancing himself from teammates. Told my friends that moment that he would never be the leader A&M needed.

He was on his way out the minute Sumlin named Hill the starter and he started searching to transfer that year. The Kenny Hill drama delayed the decision because it opened the window for him to start. It appeared that Allen always put himself before the team.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60153 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 7:36 am to
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This is why everyone is pushing out stories about Sumlin on the "hot seat".


Yeah it's definitely not because he's actually on the hot seat
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
796 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:18 am to
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I accidentally ran into Kyle Allen before the 2014 game at the team hotel. Poor body language and he was already distancing himself from teammates. Told my friends that moment that he would never be the leader A&M needed.


Wow! I certainly hope you are being compensated immensely for your incredible gift of being able to totally size someone up after just a short, accidental meeting. Corporations should be screaming for your services!

Rodo
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58071 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:05 am to
To be fair, it was an open secret that Allen was looking into transferring his freshman year when Kenny was named starter. Chill isn't making that up.

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