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re: This is Sumlins 3rd Best Year at A&M
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:32 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:32 pm to cardboardboxer
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How can anyone really?
Be like Briles and take anyone and everyone regardless of how big of a TPOS they are.
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To get those recruits we need some success, and to get success we need to beat people we shouldn't beat.
Or you need a guy beloved by Texas HS coaches who works his arse off on the recruiting trail.
To me the fact that he is so well loved is the biggest reason to go after him. If we want to win big we 100% have to kill it on the recruiting trail here in Texas. The 5-10 difference makers that leave the state each year for schools like Ohio State, Alabama, and LSU MUST be kept home if we are going to take that next step.
So either we get a scumbag who will cheat his arse off and take the players most schools wouldn't touch with a 20 foot pole or a guy who has more connections than anyone else else currently coaching in Texas and is legitimately well thought of.
We could always try and steal a guy from elsewhere who has had success but the odds of a national title winner (or even somebody who has coached for one) going to another school and winning it all aren't all that high. Saban and Urban are the only two that fit that bill and good luck luring them away. After that there's Dabo, Jimbo, and Chip that might be the closest to a sure thing we could get but again, good luck getting them to leave their current situations.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 2:39 pm
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:02 pm to Dr RC
Until the majority of the A&M fanbase moves away from the fallacy that anything other than full on Jim Jones Kool-Aid drinking sunshine pumping is worse than shitty results it doesn't matter who the coach or the players are. We will continue to suck.
Until there's a vicious anger over results like 2016, 2015, and 2014 amongst the majority of the fanbase, including the donors, nothing will change.
From what I read, they burned an effigy of Gene Stallings when he failed after winning the SWC. Emory Bellard, arguably the second best coach in A&M history, RESIGNED because the pressure to win was too great.
Unfortunately, by the time it reaches that level, no one worth a shite will be available and we'll overpay on another Fran.
Until there's a vicious anger over results like 2016, 2015, and 2014 amongst the majority of the fanbase, including the donors, nothing will change.
From what I read, they burned an effigy of Gene Stallings when he failed after winning the SWC. Emory Bellard, arguably the second best coach in A&M history, RESIGNED because the pressure to win was too great.
Unfortunately, by the time it reaches that level, no one worth a shite will be available and we'll overpay on another Fran.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:44 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
if throwing tantrums got you what you wanted, 2-year olds would rule the world
But I have to say, your belief that it might explains quite a bit
If it makes you feel better, the ptb are not happy. But they don't express that unhappiness by fits of emotion because they aren't 2 any more. And they also are smart enough to realize that you give a guy unconditional support until the day you fire him. There is and should be no in between
But I have to say, your belief that it might explains quite a bit
If it makes you feel better, the ptb are not happy. But they don't express that unhappiness by fits of emotion because they aren't 2 any more. And they also are smart enough to realize that you give a guy unconditional support until the day you fire him. There is and should be no in between
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:47 pm to tmc94
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If it makes you feel better, the ptb are not happy.
I don't believe that for one second. The "powers that be" are perfectly fine with 7-8 win seasons every year as long as the stadium is over 100,000 seats full every game.
That's also known as the "Wally Groff" mindset.
But it doesn't matter anyway. Until those who write and negotiate A&M coaching contracts actually have the brains not to guarantee a ridiculous amount without a buyout, effectively handicapping the athletic department's ability to make hard decisions, as they've done with the last four head coaches, we'll continue to have the same shite after a massive contract extension.
Right now, Billy Kennedy gets 5x the results that Sumlin gets for 1/5 the cost.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:18 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The "powers that be" are perfectly fine with 7-8 win seasons every year as long as the stadium is over 100,000 seats full every game.
Ahh, the Donald Trump line. Say something as a fact without any inside information.
You can believe what you want, but in reality we don't know what's really going on inside . If my aggy intuition tells me anything, it is that the ptb love measuring their dicks against Texas and vice versa. We got a jumbotron, they got godzillatron. They expanded their stadium, we expanded our stadium to be bigger. We hired a black coach, they hired a black coach. We are always going to spend money to counter Texas. Our boosters aren't happy if they are getting outspent and outdone by Texas. They aren't accepting mediocrity like you want to believe they do.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:22 pm to Texas Weazel
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We are always going to spend money to counter Texas. Our boosters aren't happy if they are getting outspent and outdone by Texas. They aren't accepting mediocrity like you want to believe they do.
They let their coach run the program into the ground, our boosters are determined to fail even more spectacularly than Strong did.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:48 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Bringing in Chad Morris would be the most Aggy thing we could do. He has a 7-17 record at SMU. He is not what we need to win an SEC title and would be an anchor around our neck if he sucks. He could win somewhere and I hope he does....just not here. I agree with support Sumlin till the day we fire him, for recruiting, just like the sips did last year. But Sumlin will get fired after he goes 6-6 next year. and when that glorious day comes, we need to be in the market for a top 10 coach....we have the resources and I believe a leader like Woodward can get this done.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:25 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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They let their coach run the program into the ground,
8-4 is 'running into the ground'???
ok....I guess. Hate him for not beating LSU. Hate him for not winning the division. Hate him for losing games he's supposed to win. But don't hate him for something that isn't true. This program hasn't been run into the ground. It's not elite, but it's also not in despair. You make it seem like we just lost 8 games this season.
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our boosters are determined to fail even more spectacularly than Strong did.
We still don't know if Strong failed or not. It's important to remember the circumstances he walked into. The pieces are there, all he needed was to reshape his defensive coaching staff. But he didn't even get that opportunity.
It also didn't help that Red McCombs was throwing public daggers at him by calling him a 'great position coach". We all know what that's code for...
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:31 pm to AgSwag1
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Bringing in Chad Morris would be the most Aggy thing we could do. He has a 7-17 record at SMU. He is not what we need to win an SEC title and would be an anchor around our neck if he sucks. He could win somewhere and I hope he does....just not here. I agree with support Sumlin till the day we fire him, for recruiting, just like the sips did last year. But Sumlin will get fired after he goes 6-6 next year. and when that glorious day comes, we need to be in the market for a top 10 coach....we have the resources and I believe a leader like Woodward can get this done
Agreed. Right now the best possible choice is Colorado's coach, Mark McIntyre...or even his Defensive Coordinator, Jim Leavitt, who build South Florida from literally nothing into a 9-win/year school.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:28 pm to tmc94
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If it makes you feel better, the ptb are not happy. But they don't express that unhappiness by fits of emotion because they aren't 2 any more. And they also are smart enough to realize that you give a guy unconditional support until the day you fire him. There is and should be no in between
Lol at thinking our major donors understand this
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:33 pm to Texas Weazel
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8-4 is 'running into the ground'???
"They" = the sips in this case.
Our boosters are determined to have the team fail even more spectacularly than the sips did.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:54 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:25 pm to tmc94
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If it makes you feel better, the ptb are not happy. But they don't express that unhappiness by fits of emotion because they aren't 2 any more. And they also are smart enough to realize that you give a guy unconditional support until the day you fire him. There is and should be no in between
Then why haven't they been supporting him?
The fickle nature of our recruiting budget has way more impact than disgruntled msg board posters. Yet here we are wondering if he loves me or he loves me not headed into December of another recruiting class...
Everyone in the country knew last year that texas was hiring Tom Herman this year, and how did the classes finish last winter?
What our Ad says in response to hot seat questions or what gets fed to Bruce Feldman may be "unconditional" support but it means little going forward.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 8:26 pm
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