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Sumlin is not the man for the job
Posted on 11/7/15 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 11/7/15 at 10:06 pm
... As much as it pains me to say. This guy just doesn't have the edge to lead a team to the top of the SEC. He has literally sounded scared during his last three pressers. As long as he's here third place in the west is the best we can hope for.
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Posted on 11/7/15 at 11:30 pm to Masterag
Agreed. We got conned.
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Posted on 11/7/15 at 11:50 pm to Masterag
All the naysayers can downvote, but this is reality. There is just no way we have two 5 star QBs and three 5 star WR and our offense still struggles. Yeah, some can say we don't have the personnel, but that still falls on Sumlin. How he allowed our Offensive line to deteriorate so fast is beyond me. I appreciate the uniform changes and highly touted recruits, but none of that means shite if you can't develop players and win.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:24 am to Masterag
Agreed. Only team under him that has consistently progressed as the season moved along was the 2012 squad.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 7:20 am to greenbastard
I am not there yet. The Chavis hire looks good, as long as the offensive staff gets shaken up this offseason I still have hope. Sumlin's problem is that he is too loyal, not that he is an idiot. We could get a rock star OC if we wanted.
And honestly even if right now I knew he would never win a title I wouldn't want to fire him after this season. He is doing a wonderful job sponging up some of the talent Texas normally gets during the Charlie era. If we can be stable through the end of Charlie and maximize Texas's down period then maybe the guy post Sumlin will have a full cupboard that he can win with.
And honestly even if right now I knew he would never win a title I wouldn't want to fire him after this season. He is doing a wonderful job sponging up some of the talent Texas normally gets during the Charlie era. If we can be stable through the end of Charlie and maximize Texas's down period then maybe the guy post Sumlin will have a full cupboard that he can win with.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:00 am to Masterag
Watching Hubinak tonight makes me agree with you and become more angry at how our coaching staff handled the qb situation. They left Allen in to just get destroyed with his 1 for 22 passing streak in the ole miss game when even though Murray was "suspended" they could have thrown Hubinak in there far earlier. It's obvious he's still hurt (maybe mentally too) as he didn't come in when kyler got his concussion or whatever.
This coaching staff is way over paid. They don't make good decisions, they don't develop talent, and they consistently get out coached by far less paid staffs. If we were paying sumlin 3 mil a year I'd be ok with most years having 7 to 9 wins but when you pay a coach top 10 salary, there needs to be results that at least get close to that.
This coaching staff is way over paid. They don't make good decisions, they don't develop talent, and they consistently get out coached by far less paid staffs. If we were paying sumlin 3 mil a year I'd be ok with most years having 7 to 9 wins but when you pay a coach top 10 salary, there needs to be results that at least get close to that.
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:45 am to Masterag
Somebody needs to be fired. Somebody.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:57 am to Texas Gentleman
Just so I'm clear, our current record would settle better with you if Sumlin was paid 2 million less?
Ok carry on.
Ok carry on.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 8:58 am
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:00 am to Warrior Poet
No, but it wouldn't be as difficult or costly to fire him.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:07 am to Masterag
I'm an Old Man football fan and I think if you look at my history you will see my general unease with this offiense.
I think the Air Raid (which I don't think we are really running anymore) has too many opportunities for failure.
Spav is a mess. I want him gone but I want a repudiation to this offensive scheme too. Get me some TEs and get me a horse RB and do Old Man work.
The defense needs to stop over running lanes to be sure but they are the least of my ire this morning.
I think the Air Raid (which I don't think we are really running anymore) has too many opportunities for failure.
Spav is a mess. I want him gone but I want a repudiation to this offensive scheme too. Get me some TEs and get me a horse RB and do Old Man work.
The defense needs to stop over running lanes to be sure but they are the least of my ire this morning.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:13 am to Jobu93
You want to try and our power Bama and LSU with high school talent that doesn't play that way or produce elite interior lineman on either side? Did you watch LSU Bama last night? LF7 the best running back since AP, and a great OL ran for about what we did.
We are moving to a more power spread offense, and that's probably where we need to be.
We are moving to a more power spread offense, and that's probably where we need to be.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:38 am to Nguyening
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You want to try and our power Bama and LSU
No but we have to be able to line up in short yardage situations and be able to pick up a yard. We have no run game and it's absolutely killing or offense.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:46 am to Nguyening
Without Murray to threaten to get around the corner, things aren't as open for Carson. We all know that Carson lacks speed. White was ineffective, perhaps he is still injured. Not much is gonna change this year with our rushing attack. We have to make progress here.
There doesn't seem to be alot of great LBs coming out of the Texas high school ranks, either. Best option here might be bigger DBs who really hit, that can grow into a LB. Maybe Dunning?
There doesn't seem to be alot of great LBs coming out of the Texas high school ranks, either. Best option here might be bigger DBs who really hit, that can grow into a LB. Maybe Dunning?
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 9:48 am
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:52 am to Jobu93
If you look at this from a business perspective, there are certain positions where you should never hire people that require on-the-job training to perform.
Sumlin fell into this trap when he elevated Spavital. Spavital did not have years of proven experience as an offensive coordinator. He may turn out to be an outstanding offensive coordinator/head coach some day. We have been paying the price for him to learn on the job.
Sumlin went with an experienced hand when he changed DC. He also went with an experienced hand when he changed the OL coach. I expect he will do the same thing if/when he chooses to make a change at OC.
Sumlin fell into this trap when he elevated Spavital. Spavital did not have years of proven experience as an offensive coordinator. He may turn out to be an outstanding offensive coordinator/head coach some day. We have been paying the price for him to learn on the job.
Sumlin went with an experienced hand when he changed DC. He also went with an experienced hand when he changed the OL coach. I expect he will do the same thing if/when he chooses to make a change at OC.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:00 am to Nguyening
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You want to try and our power Bama and LSU with high school talent that doesn't play that way or produce elite interior lineman on either side? Did you watch LSU Bama last night? LF7 the best running back since AP, and a great OL ran for about what we did.
We are moving to a more power spread offense, and that's probably where we need to be.
There are plenty of spread offenses out there that would manage more than 2 offensive TDs against Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss... combined. It's just baffling how bad we are.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:01 am to Ag8556
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Sumlin fell into this trap when he elevated Spavital. Spavital did not have years of proven experience as an offensive coordinator. He may turn out to be an outstanding offensive coordinator/head coach some day. We have been paying the price for him to learn on the job.
Spav was 27 when Sumlin hired him.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:02 am to Ag8556
That's a plausible scenario. Who are some realistic "experienced hands" to take over as OC?
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:10 am to PikeBishop
Norm Chow (former USC OC, UCLA OC, Tennessee Titans OC, and Hawai'i HC)
Bob Toledo (former Texas A&M OC, UCLA head coach, Tulane head coach, and SDSU offensive coordinator)
Doug Meachem (TCU)
Bob Toledo (former Texas A&M OC, UCLA head coach, Tulane head coach, and SDSU offensive coordinator)
Doug Meachem (TCU)
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 10:27 am
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:13 am to TeLeFaWx
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There are plenty of spread offenses out there that would manage more than 2 offensive TDs against Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss... combined. It's just baffling how bad we are.
I agree. I think we need to transition to a more power oriented spread. Although, when we have run the true air raid we've scored pretty consistently. Seems spav's biggest problem is trying to be too multiple and fit each weeks plan to the opponent talk much.
The air raid was built on doing only a few things, but executing them very well.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:39 am to Nguyening
I think the staff has comvinced itself that unless we have a qb who can run for 100 on any given Saturday, a pass oriented spread/true air raid won't work in the SEC.
Not sure if I agree I just think we need better execution and development.
Not sure if I agree I just think we need better execution and development.
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