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re: Seal Protest
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:02 am to tmc94
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:02 am to tmc94
I like broccoli.
I disagree with the first sentence. They're classy. Not cartoonish. The point of inserting the other SEC seals is to show that 13 other schools aren't advertising whores. I'm not sure why we need to be.
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And for the record, most of those seals are horrific. I'm not sure what you gain by inserting them into the discussion.
I disagree with the first sentence. They're classy. Not cartoonish. The point of inserting the other SEC seals is to show that 13 other schools aren't advertising whores. I'm not sure why we need to be.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 5:53 am to tmc94
The t-star came about because of the seal not the other way around. The seal should not change because of changes in marketing decisions.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:13 am to tmc94
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But that's a branding issue and the average person honestly isn't very good at branding and their opinions are often counterproductive.
This is one of, if not the greatest examples of unintentional humor I've ever seen posted on this board.
Branding is absolutely, 100% about registering recognition with the "average person." It's not some esoteric art.
But the university seal has nothing to do with marketing to the masses, so your entire argument is irrelevant.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:06 am to PowerTool
Why the frick are we putting the nike bevel block on our administrative and academic seal, makes no sense... If it was the regular block I'd care a lot less.
And even then it's not the true problem. The problem is our god awful BoR.
They're trying to commercialize our academics. This school is now purely about $ and not the traditions or creating excellent people to go graduate and get out into the workforce.
/soapbox
Give me the Tstar or give me death!
And even then it's not the true problem. The problem is our god awful BoR.
They're trying to commercialize our academics. This school is now purely about $ and not the traditions or creating excellent people to go graduate and get out into the workforce.
/soapbox
Give me the Tstar or give me death!
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:37 am to PowerTool
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But the university seal has nothing to do with marketing to the masses, so your entire argument is irrelevant.
Yup.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:07 am to FarmersFight
also we are a public university in the state of Texas, you know, 'The Lone Star State'.
That star represents Texas and our place in the state (as it should).
The seal of just about every public University in this state as the Lone Star incorporated.
Our old seal was a direct copy of the state seal with the T added.
That star represents Texas and our place in the state (as it should).
The seal of just about every public University in this state as the Lone Star incorporated.
Our old seal was a direct copy of the state seal with the T added.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:31 am to PowerTool
I'm not really that interested in this argument and am not invested in the seal much one way or another. It's not the first seal change in our school's history. Hell it's not even the 2nd. It's the 3rd.
It's not and shouldn't be as sacred as all that. And this thread just reminds me how we can't get out of our own way too often and it makes me sad. We fight any and all change because change is bad.
I'm just at a loss. What do you think the seal is? Every time A&M represents itself to the outside world officially, whether to the state, community, prospective students, etc, it uses the seal as it's mark.
It's used on all official correspondence, all applications, admissions letters, rejections letters, it goes on all letterhead. A prospective student sees it 10-20 times thru various means before setting foot on campus.
I'll leave it at this. Y'all get super pissed when someone mistakes A&M for Tech or whatever. Or when people don't recognize what a good school A&M is. The school's "one-brand" strategy was designed to attack these things. It's extremely difficult to control your image if you do not present yourself in a consistent manner. Strengthening our brand is important to us as graduates and to the value of our degree.
It's not and shouldn't be as sacred as all that. And this thread just reminds me how we can't get out of our own way too often and it makes me sad. We fight any and all change because change is bad.
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But the university seal has nothing to do with marketing to the masses, so your entire argument is irrelevant.
I'm just at a loss. What do you think the seal is? Every time A&M represents itself to the outside world officially, whether to the state, community, prospective students, etc, it uses the seal as it's mark.
It's used on all official correspondence, all applications, admissions letters, rejections letters, it goes on all letterhead. A prospective student sees it 10-20 times thru various means before setting foot on campus.
I'll leave it at this. Y'all get super pissed when someone mistakes A&M for Tech or whatever. Or when people don't recognize what a good school A&M is. The school's "one-brand" strategy was designed to attack these things. It's extremely difficult to control your image if you do not present yourself in a consistent manner. Strengthening our brand is important to us as graduates and to the value of our degree.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:30 am to tmc94
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It's extremely difficult to control your image if you do not present yourself in a consistent manner. Strengthening our brand is important to us as graduates and to the value of our degree.
would make sense if you had an example of ANY nationally respected school who rebranded their school seal to achieve such brand recognition. Yet go and look, all the schools have the official seal that is different from their brand.
Now I guess its possible that John Sharp and his band of cronies are marketing geniuses, but I'm not putting much stock in that theory. They can't even get decent food at the athletic facilities and wanted to name a building after Governor Good hair.
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:02 pm to Manzielathon
That bevel looks really out of place on an official university seal. Do not approve of the proposed change.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:21 pm to finestfirst79
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I'm not sure why we need to be.
b/c somehow the state of Texas has slowly turned into the ultra capitalist wet dream where damn near everything is judged based on how much money it can produce.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:29 pm to Manzielathon
The BOR is doing a lot of stuff without input from students or former students. Its getting out of hand IMO. I'm surprised Sharp hasn't reached out to Celoron, NY to get that Lucille 'Scary Lucy' Ball statue to our campus. Dude is obsessed with statues and shite.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:24 pm to greenbastard
Changing the seal is the stupidest most asinine thing ever done by our Board of Retards. It's our seal, it isn't a logo. It didn't need changing and it is appalling that these imbeciles actually did this.
frick each and every one of them.
frick each and every one of them.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:33 pm to The Balinese Club
Whoa whoa whoa. Let's wait and see who they secretly named the Flag Room after; they may top the seal change yet.
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:44 pm to PowerTool
I digress. They could top it.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:01 pm to tmc94
All this talk about branding Reminds me I still don't know what Adidas is paying a&m after renewing the contract last summer.
Have they ever published the numbers? If so, what are they? Where does a&m stand in terms of adidas' other schools?
Have they ever published the numbers? If so, what are they? Where does a&m stand in terms of adidas' other schools?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 5:52 pm to Roger Klarvin
I don't even give a shite about the supposed "bevel" issue--I just don't see the need to mess with the classic, academic look of the seal.
The more I think about it, the stupider it gets.
The more I think about it, the stupider it gets.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 12:00 am to PowerTool
Holy crap! I thought this, along with everything else, was a joke until I read the Eagle article just now! They seriously went ahead and sold the naming rights of the Flag Room without telling anyone?!?! Boy, it takes big balls to do that. What, where, when, and who won the bid??!
And just when I thought the BOR couldn't do anything more outrageous, boy do they prove me wrong. The article goes on to say that Sharp has demanded the resignation of every VP in the university. What the heck is that about? You aren't the president, so back off and stick to being a regent! If the president, (which Sharp stated he didn't ask for it) wants new VPs, then let him do it!
I'm seriously troubled and disturbed by these recent events. I don't think words can describe how I feel about all of this. I understand that the regents care about A&M and everything they do is with good intentions, but micromanaging is not the way to help A&M move forward.
And just when I thought the BOR couldn't do anything more outrageous, boy do they prove me wrong. The article goes on to say that Sharp has demanded the resignation of every VP in the university. What the heck is that about? You aren't the president, so back off and stick to being a regent! If the president, (which Sharp stated he didn't ask for it) wants new VPs, then let him do it!
I'm seriously troubled and disturbed by these recent events. I don't think words can describe how I feel about all of this. I understand that the regents care about A&M and everything they do is with good intentions, but micromanaging is not the way to help A&M move forward.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 7:35 am to greenbastard
One theory is that they didn't sell the name of the Flag Room, but are naming it for Rick Perry since there was so much backlash when that regent floated the idea of renaming the Academic building after Perry.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 9:01 am to PowerTool
It takes balls to do what our regents are doing.
I'm truly disturbed.
I'm truly disturbed.
Posted on 5/2/15 at 3:54 pm to PowerTool
Why the frick would they rename anything after that clown?
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