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re: Let's all take a moment to point and laugh at what is going down on the 40 Acres
Posted on 9/8/15 at 5:01 pm to Mirthomatic
Posted on 9/8/15 at 5:01 pm to Mirthomatic
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I honestly think the only game the horns can feel comfortable about is Kansas.
Dude...
Ok I agree with you. I tried to be objective also. Kansas is the only game I think is an absolute without a doubt win. There are a few others they really should win. After those... a lot of losses.
classic.
Funniest thing I read somewhere was posted from one tsip fan to another after the ND game:
"I can't believe we are getting sued because we have 2 offensive coordinators"
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Posted on 9/8/15 at 7:37 pm to Tridentds
So, they fired Watson and promoted Norvell. Charlie has to know how quickly his tenure could come to an end. I'm not believing the money problem argument for not firing him after this season. Some of the BMD's who haven't been part of this Tan Fran Experiment will enter the picture and foot the bill(and remove Patterson if necessary). I'm also not buying the "can't fire coach after 2 years, it will draw potential coaches away" argument. Mack had like 15 years so they will cite that as an example of loyalty. It's possible this is his last year.
The best case scenario for A&M is he stays there forever or as long as possible. Even just a 3rd year would be good. They had the last real talent defensively move on after last season. There's a few more left and after this season the cupboard will be bare(especially d line). These guys just don't have a clue with the head scratching talent they go after in recruiting. Still, they need to be dominated a few more cycles to really set them back.
It's not a good team and I can't believe for the first time I'm actually hoping they win a few games. Even 5 wins would be good for them and keeping Strong. Other than Kansas and maybe Rice and maybe one out of Tech/ISU it's hard to see them winning any other games. 3-9 might get Strong fired. It's hard to see him staying around if they reach double digit losses
The best case scenario for A&M is he stays there forever or as long as possible. Even just a 3rd year would be good. They had the last real talent defensively move on after last season. There's a few more left and after this season the cupboard will be bare(especially d line). These guys just don't have a clue with the head scratching talent they go after in recruiting. Still, they need to be dominated a few more cycles to really set them back.
It's not a good team and I can't believe for the first time I'm actually hoping they win a few games. Even 5 wins would be good for them and keeping Strong. Other than Kansas and maybe Rice and maybe one out of Tech/ISU it's hard to see them winning any other games. 3-9 might get Strong fired. It's hard to see him staying around if they reach double digit losses
Posted on 9/8/15 at 8:14 pm to Raoul_Duke
So after one game they put someone else in charge of their "new" completely revamped offense 
Posted on 9/8/15 at 8:16 pm to Old Sarge
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Disappointed in his Cornhusker offense's performance, Nebraska head coach Bill Callahan dumped Offensive Coordinator Jay Norvell after the 2006 season ended, and hired Shawn Watson to replace him.
Can't make this shite up. Wooooooooooooow.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 8:31 pm to Cooter Davenport
what about oline mastermind joe wickline, the real brains behind mike gundy?
Posted on 9/8/15 at 8:34 pm to Cooter Davenport
That's funny right there.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 8:59 pm to SafetySam
I'll leave it to any attorneys out there to comment on how this impacts the OSU vs. Wickline lawsuit. Which is inexplicably is still going on...
Posted on 9/8/15 at 9:28 pm to Raoul_Duke
I think this probably buys Strong at least one more year after this one, almost regardless of how this year goes. He can call this the tryout period for Norvell, and say he deserves a year to make improvements. If the offense is still putrid, he can sacrifice Norvell, perhaps sacrifice the entire offensive staff, and say he's going to find replacements untainted by Watson.
Of course, there's always the chance that the BMD horns notice that the defense, allegedly Strong's specialty, is almost as laughable as the offense. If BOTH the offense and defense finish ranked in the 100s, and their record reflects that to the tune of only 1-3 wins, Strong might be beyond hope.
I'm actually at the point where I hope Red McCombs was right. I hope he IS a good defensive coordinator.
Of course, there's always the chance that the BMD horns notice that the defense, allegedly Strong's specialty, is almost as laughable as the offense. If BOTH the offense and defense finish ranked in the 100s, and their record reflects that to the tune of only 1-3 wins, Strong might be beyond hope.
I'm actually at the point where I hope Red McCombs was right. I hope he IS a good defensive coordinator.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 9:42 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
I posted this on August 19th. I'd say I got it about right.
So yep. OL looks confused and is missing blocks, and is generally just absolutely awful, and the defense is horrible too (even worse than I thought it'd be). Notre Dame could have scored 60 if they'd thrown more against that shite secondary, but Kelly was content to run it almost every down (they only called 23 pass plays versus 52 run plays despite the face that Zaire had a 158.3 NFL QB rating). Oh and they took it easy in the 4th quarter.
The only downside to all this is that if this season goes as bad as I think it's going to (and I think it's going to go horribly), they might fire Strong after only 2 years.
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Their offense is going to be awful. Ketch is saying there's a good chance that they start 2 fish on the OL, and unless their last names are Joeckel and Matthews, that's a really, really bad thing for horn fans (and honestly, even those two took their licks fish year). If the horns have any injuries, that OL is gonna go from very bad to putrid, and Swoopes ain't exactly the kind of QB that can compensate for a poor OL. Oh and they've randomly decided to switch to an Ohio State/Auburn power run-first spread, which is a system that none of their coaching staff has any experience with.
If that's not funny enough, supposedly the offense is running the ball down the defense's throat in practice. Again, that's behind an absolutely dogshit OL. That should tell you how they're adjusting to the loss of their NFL-caliber DTs (not well) and how ready the guys behind them are for D-1 football (they aren't).
It's going to be glorious. Their offense is going to be every bit as bad as last year's (and possibly worse) and their D is probably going to take a step back as well since they're missing a few studs up front.
So yep. OL looks confused and is missing blocks, and is generally just absolutely awful, and the defense is horrible too (even worse than I thought it'd be). Notre Dame could have scored 60 if they'd thrown more against that shite secondary, but Kelly was content to run it almost every down (they only called 23 pass plays versus 52 run plays despite the face that Zaire had a 158.3 NFL QB rating). Oh and they took it easy in the 4th quarter.
The only downside to all this is that if this season goes as bad as I think it's going to (and I think it's going to go horribly), they might fire Strong after only 2 years.
This post was edited on 9/8/15 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:06 pm to Raoul_Duke
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So, they fired Watson and promoted Norvell.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:25 pm to Iosh
There is simply not enough 
for this sip season.
for this sip season.
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:49 pm to Iosh
Didn't they pretty much admit that Wickline's title is BS with that announcement re the OK State suit?
Posted on 9/8/15 at 11:46 pm to Raoul_Duke
I've always wondered what exactly a real shite show would look like. And this is it. Almost feel bad for them being stuck with Strong and in the BigXII...almost.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 6:00 am to greenbastard
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I've always wondered what exactly a real shite show would look like. And this is it
i've used the expression from time to time myself, but now i have a greater appreciation for what it means.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 9:55 am to Ash'sProstheticHand
They can't afford to fire strong based on what I've seen.
Strong wouldn't be guilty of misconduct, he would have good arguments that they owed him his full contract amount (if I recall he has no buyout).
Plus they are paying Mack still.
Plus they would have to pay buyout for new coach.
They have money to spend, sure, but this may be too much to swallow at this time. And even if they did, they wouldn't be able to go out and shoot for a big name coach. Combine all of that with their new cost cutting AD and they might be screwed.
Strong wouldn't be guilty of misconduct, he would have good arguments that they owed him his full contract amount (if I recall he has no buyout).
Plus they are paying Mack still.
Plus they would have to pay buyout for new coach.
They have money to spend, sure, but this may be too much to swallow at this time. And even if they did, they wouldn't be able to go out and shoot for a big name coach. Combine all of that with their new cost cutting AD and they might be screwed.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:04 am to Warrior Poet
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too much to swallow
I disagree, they can handle that and more. They are actually quite good at this from what I have heard.
In totally unrelated news Kirk Bohls tweeted out yesterday that Austin has been selected to host next summers Gay Softball World Series.
Not to be confused with the softball currently being played at DKR. Totally different.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:15 am to Tridentds
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I disagree, they can handle that and more. They are actually quite good at this from what I have heard.
Is Patterson good at it, or was Dodds good at it? And were they good at it when Mack was winning 10+ games a year and they were swimming in corporate sponsorships?
With all the cost-cutting Patterson is doing, the UTx athletic department is more constrained now than ever before. And because the BMD horns weren't part of the process hiring Strong, I'm not sure they're going to be willing to open their wallets to pay to make that mistake go away anytime soon. I think that would take a truly catastrophic season, one that would obviously threaten the long-term health of the program.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:28 am to Mirthomatic
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With all the cost-cutting Patterson is doing
You could be right. About the only things I hear is what I read at Shaggy. They are bitching about ticket prices going way up and being charged for tailgating, more advertisements at the games, increased licensing fees, etc... etc... He may be cutting costs across the board. Was not aware of this at all. With all that LHN money flowing in you wouldn't think they would need to cut costs anyway.
Just a little perspective though... ND paid a $19 million buyout to another Charlie not to coach another game. If texass doesn't get rid of this Charlie, it will NOT be because of money. It will be because of other issues but money will NOT be one of them.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:34 am to Tridentds
They already paid him over 9 M for 2014 (4+ for the buyout). They're giving him 5 M this year. If they fire him they'll be paying 15 M over the next 3 years. They still owe Mack 8.25 M over the next 3 years (including this year) and already paid him 2.75 M for 2014. (~12 M spent on coaches, not counting assistants, for 2014 alone. OUCH!)
They are in some real trouble and I don't think they are willing to spend their way out of it.
They are in some real trouble and I don't think they are willing to spend their way out of it.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 10:39 am to Farmer1906
The powers that be will never let the athletic department spend $16 million each year on the Old and new head coach and that doesn't even include the buyout and renegotiated contract of new assistants
They are stuck with Chuck
They are stuck with Chuck
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