Kyle Allen

I sure hope you're right


Part of me expects him to fall apart vs LSU and throw 3 picks

I agree. He was ripping the ball in there in 30 degree weather with the wind howling this weekend. There had to be something physically wrong


The only thing I could think of, because I agree with Farmer's viewpoint as well, is that he refused to admit he was hurt and didn't tell the staff to try to play through it. I dunno

This.

Allen was hurt there is no doubt. Sumlin lied to us, and I'm not sure why. I've said this before but all of his closed door, no leaks policies end up blowing up in his face.

Not thrilled how him and Spav handled the QB situation. Very, very poorly managed.

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Or maybe he was worried his job would not be there when he got back

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im going with this and it stems from how unbelievably poorly spav and sumlin handled the QB situation

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Pre OM presser
-Murray has been suspended for 1 game for breaking team rules.

Pre SC presser
-Kyle was trying to play through pain with an undisclosed injury. Clearly if effected him and will be giving him time to recover. Murray will start moving forwards with Jake being the primary back up.

Pre WCU presser
-Kyle is day to day. Both QBs will be getting reps with the ones. If Kyle cannot go, we Kyler will start.

Pre Vandy presser
-Kyle will return as starting QB

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Yep. All the drama was just totally unnecessary.

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I've said this before but all of his closed door, no leaks policies end up blowing up in his face.

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He takes it to an extent that is really juvenile and as juvenile actions typically go, it backfires on him. He doesn't need to blab about every injury, or go into detail, or discuss disciplinary actions or their causes, but when your QB's shoulder is clearly injured, to not only act like nothing is physically wrong - but directly and literally lie about it - is a bad, silly, policy that comes out of Kevin's strange desire to "stick it to the media", which is apparent in the petulant attitude he cops in every press conference.

Just saying "Allen's shoulder is hurt - you all saw it. We're starting Murray because he is healthy." Would have been much better. But, that would also mean he'd have to own playing Allen while injured against Alabama and then playing him injured against OM because Murray was in the doghouse, even though he had Hubenak and playing an injured Allen wasn't necessary. THAT is a narrative he absolutely does not want to explore and will do anything to avoid.

What I think happened internally:

Allen got his bell rung pretty well and maybe some minor injury vs MSU. Allen did ok in practice, but coaches knew he shouldn't be starting, we should play the backup (Hube). However, because of the situation with Kyler and his dad and 'playtime promises', coaches couldn't just pull Allen and start Hube, who they thought would probably be better for a spell. So we start Kyler. He ends up looking like a true freshman (dogshit), but by now, Allen is doing better. So we start Allen again.

The whole situation was 100% because we had a 5* prima donna and a helicopter dad being allowed to make demands and threaten to leave if they didn't get their way. So end result is Kyler is probably 90% most likely to transfer after this year anyway, and we literally broke our team's confidence in their coaching staff.

I fully agree with this if the coaching staff actually knew, but there's also a good chance that Kyle was injured and hiding it, thinking he could push through it while knowing that if he ever admitted he was injured he'd immediately be on the bench.

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You think Kyler is going to transfer?

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He would be magic at a place like Oregon.

Could be. Not sure it would be a bad thing either. I don't have any line in the internals if the locker room or the program so I don't know enough to even speculate.