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re: Here's why I honestly think Hubanek starts

Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by NanosTacoRun
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:42 pm to
So he was promised a fair shot at the starting position and that he wouldn't redshirt.


Is that it?
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:43 pm to
That girl is insanely good looking though. We can't fault him for that.
Posted by AgBQ00
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:45 pm to
That has always been Sumlin's stance though. The best players play. He said this from day one. In the ASU game we needed to break the hold their blitzing had on us. Kyler gave us the wrinkle to do that. He had the combination of arm and running ability to back them off some to get the offense flowing better. I do not see that as a misuse in any way. We tried the same thing versus Bama, but if you watch that segment again their answer to this move was line games to create massive pressure up the middle while containing Kyler to the pocket. Not much you can do about that when your O-line doesn't stop them from doing what they wanted.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:50 pm to
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"The opportunity to come in and compete is still wide-open. I always give that incoming freshman an opportunity."


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. You're going to practice. You're going to play. There's not going to be a redshirt for you


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Kyler was promised playing time. "You are going to play." Plain as day, he was promised to play. Which makes sense when you connect the dot that other programs were outright offering that he could be the starter day 1.


No, he was promised no red shirt (which like it or not is damn near standard these days for highly rated QBs) and the chance to compete for the spot based on what happened in practice.

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Tell me, in the last ten years at Texas A&M when have we had our "starting" QB get replaced in the FIRST GAME when the game was still in doubt? Reggie McNeal didn't come in until the third to last game of the year.


That might have to do with having a senior QB who had been solid in a run based offense up to that point and the first two games being against ULaLa and a salty Pitt team on the road no?

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Kyle was given the shortest rope in modern A&M history, maybe ever.


Dustin Long and Kenny Hill say hello.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:17 pm to
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So he was promised a fair shot at the starting position and that he wouldn't redshirt.


Is that it?


And he was promised he would play. That promise was independent of whatever he earning during his "shot at the starting position."
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:33 pm to
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That has always been Sumlin's stance though. The best players play. He said this from day one. In the ASU game we needed to break the hold their blitzing had on us. Kyler gave us the wrinkle to do that. He had the combination of arm and running ability to back them off some to get the offense flowing better. I do not see that as a misuse in any way. We tried the same thing versus Bama, but if you watch that segment again their answer to this move was line games to create massive pressure up the middle while containing Kyler to the pocket. Not much you can do about that when your O-line doesn't stop them from doing what they wanted.


I don't disagree with any of that. Kyler obviously has some skills that Kyle doesn't have and Sumlin is in the part of his A&M career when he needs to win games. I am not trying to second guess Sumlin, as I said he is the QB guru.

Kyle could have made better decisions in games. If Kyle isn't our starter next week at this point it has nothing to do with keeping promises. I think every promise Sumlin made has already been kept. This QB competition was not part of that.

Honestly given our poor OL play maybe Kyler gives us a better chance to win. That is all that matters. His interception was pretty bad though, he needs to make better decisions himself.

With that said, here we are two seasons in a row with a midseason QB controversy. If next year, or any year in Sumlin's time, is going to be "our year" we eventually need stability and consistency at the position. I feel the whole point of the QB competition is that Sumlin knows the stakes better than anyone, and knows that whoever he doesn't pick is probably gone and his career is tied to whoever is left. I hope for the sake of our program the right player is chosen, or at the very least the decision made won't bring us to the same point a year later.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2987 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:59 pm to
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And he was promised he would play. That promise was independent of whatever he earning during his "shot at the starting position."


Why is playing time a big deal?
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2987 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:05 pm to
For those saying Kyle was not given a fair shot at cementing his status as the starter, here is what Kyle was given:

Arizona St - first 7 drives, pulled up 14-7 (1 offensive TD, 5 punts, 1 fumble), reinserted after Kyler's injury

Ball State - first 6 drives, pulled after it was 42-3

Nevada - first 13 drives, pulled after 41-20

Arkansas - first 6 drives, pulled after trailing 21-13 for one drive, played rest of game

Miss St - played all 12 drives

Aalabama - first 13 drives, more TDs thrown to Alabama than own team



I just don't see how he was unfairly pulled, in any of the games.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 7:05 pm
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