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re: Here's why I honestly think Hubanek starts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:58 pm to slacker00
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:58 pm to slacker00
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Right, but less than a week of practice is nothing compared to the body of work already behind them. I just feel that it is a show.
It IS for show. Honestly the entire situation is being manufactured for the benefit of the fans. I don't think it is a real competition in three days, and I don't think there is any way Jake can "win."
If Jake starts that means the coaches are ready to reboot at the position and the whole competition was a way to sell the resulting fallout to fans. Jake partially exists on the roster to be the guy who will be a backup for more than a year and provide us some quality depth. Neither of the other two guys would be willing to do the same, so if Jake starts next year we will have Jake and whoever we sign on NSD in the QB position.
If Kyler starts Kyle is probably gone just like Kyle starting last year ran off Kenny. Maybe if Kyler fails after he starts we keep Kyle but at that point his confidence will be shot so who knows what value he has for us going forward.
If Kyle starts then Kyler is pretty much for certain gone as he has been more demanding than Kyle was last year. If the coaches let Kyler walk without giving him a chance to prove himself (aka the QB competition) and he does great elsewhere then Kyler become to Sumlin what RG3 and JFF were to Mack Brown.
These are all big decisions, and a "next man up" way of deciding it will leave a lot of second guessing (especially if the answer is Jake). Shrouding it in a competition makes it seem like the coaches have done due diligence, and it gives them some space to work outside the confines of meddling outsiders.
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:11 pm to cardboardboxer
Supposedly, Kyler pushed Kyle in fall camp. Experience would have been the biggest advantage at that point. Any advantage jake had then, would have eroded by now.
I have 0 doubt jake would be more productive than Kyle, he's a better fit for our offense. The staff doesn't seem to think so too. They should know better than me though.
I have 0 doubt jake would be more productive than Kyle, he's a better fit for our offense. The staff doesn't seem to think so too. They should know better than me though.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:12 pm to cardboardboxer
This QB competition is the coaching equivalent of a deus ex machina, except that it's worse because it's occurring in a black box. It's just a contrivance to say "oh wow, look who the competition revealed to us!" when they knew going in who they were going to have to switch to and what that would say about them and our future and the whole process leading up to this.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:14 pm to cardboardboxer
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This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:14 pm to Nguyening
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I have 0 doubt jake would be more productive than Kyle, he's a better fit for our offense.
I've thought it was odd from the beginning. Even when Kyle was doing well it was like he was doing well in spite of the system, which he doesn't fit. He would've been great for Sherman.
Pre self-destructive booze meltdown, Kenny Hill, despite not having a great arm, was a better fit. He distributed the ball all over the field and did it more quickly than Allen.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:16 pm to cardboardboxer
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Kyle starts then Kyler is pretty much for certain gone as he has been more demanding than Kyle was last year. If the coaches let Kyler walk without giving him a chance to prove himself (aka the QB competition) and he does great elsewhere then Kyler become to Sumlin what RG3 and JFF were to Mack Brown.
Yep.
This really is a potentially monumental decision with an impact that could affect the next couple of years, and ultimately determine sumlins tenure at a&m. Made all that more difficult based on the youth and lack of experience of everyone involved.
For my money id go with the guy that appears to have a unique skill set, Kyler Murray and his feet.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:16 pm to Cooter Davenport
Well I finally have some inside info I can share with my fellow tArk posters. Had lunch with a guy who knows a guy with a suite. His friend told him that Murray doesn't know the offense well enough to run it. Take that for what it's worth.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:18 pm to leoj
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Had lunch with a guy who knows a guy with a suite. His friend told him that Murray doesn't know the offense well enough to run it.
Thank you. This is what I have been saying.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:20 pm to leoj
Not surprising, though I'm sure we all question if knowing Spav's offense is a good thing at this point 
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:22 pm to leoj
That would not surprise me at all. When he has been out there he has looked at one read and tucked and run when the first receiver is not open.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:22 pm to leoj
Let's say this is true (not that I doubt it, but...). So Kyler being 2nd on the depth chart all season has just been a show so he doesn't transfer?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:25 pm to Cooter Davenport
I don't care who's under center. All three are talented.
I just want to see some playcalling that has both rhyme and reason and fits their strengths.
I just want to see some playcalling that has both rhyme and reason and fits their strengths.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:26 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Testify!
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:27 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I don't care who's under center.
Nobody is under center. We don't do that.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:30 pm to slacker00
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So Kyler being 2nd on the depth chart all season has just been a show so he doesn't transfer?
Yeah. Sumlin promised him playing time to get him here so he had to be 2nd even though everything screams that he needed to redshirt. Kyle is of course #1 coming off of an MVP run in the Liberty Bowl. Jake who was picked up to be "backup 4 lyfe" was 3rd, though he'd be the #2 guy if we'd've been allowed to do what is rational and redshirt Kyler. Now that Kyle has melted down and was clearly injured in the State game, the coaches are having to invent a fake competition to explain to the fans why they are skipping over the fake #2 guy for the real #2 guy.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:31 pm to slacker00
I mean KM is a true fish who's had what 2 months to learn the offense, he should have it down pat. JH has been running the same basic offense for 3 years kinda makes sense he should start, but what do I know, more than Spav is all I'm comfortable admitting
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:32 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I don't care who's under center.
I just want a decision we stick to. I honestly think Kyle is probably ruined at this point, and how the coaches handled Kyler should be in a textbook that describes how to screw up the confidence of your starting QB.
The saying "if you have two starting quarterbacks, you don't have one" exists for a reason.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:32 pm to cardboardboxer
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The saying "if you have two starting quarterbacks, you don't have one" exists for a reason.
Boy did we ever just learn this the hard way.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:34 pm to Agforlife
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more than Spav is all I'm comfortable admitting
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:37 pm to cardboardboxer
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I just want a decision we stick to. I honestly think Kyle is probably ruined at this point, and how the coaches handled Kyler should be in a textbook that describes how to screw up the confidence of your starting QB.
This is absolutely the truth. I hope whoever they name the starter next week is given at least the next few games to work through some tough spells, because there will be a few. Unless it's apparent that said qb is looking like Kyle Allen did in the ole miss game where it was obvious to everyone that he was done.
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