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re: UGA and Bama fans- Chidi Valentine Okeke
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:41 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:41 pm to Crowknowsbest
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This isn't about core classes. We just had two coaches leave. The OL coach who was his primary recruiter, and the OC who was also recruiting him.
It's not rocket science.
Rusty said this was going to be a problem as soon as he switched to 2015 class, and that other news comes from a pretty solid source. It is possible for him to get the credits, but he would have to work through next summer and if he didn't pass the classes, he would be a no go for next year so it is a big gamble for him.
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:28 pm to SoGaFan
I mean yeah it might be a problem, but that's not why UGA faded all of a sudden. The coaches that he had a relationship with all are leaving
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:07 am to Glory, Glory
I have a hard time believing the academic requirements for athletes at Georgia is any more difficult than Auburn, Alabama, or most other schools. Nick Marshall did originally get into school at Georgia after all.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:40 am to auburnphan23
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I have a hard time believing the academic requirements for athletes at Georgia is any more difficult than Auburn, Alabama, or most other schools.
The academic requirements are a Board of Regents in the ENTIRE state of Georgia. Among other things, there is a reason a shite ton of Georgia residents attend Auburn
There is a NCAA mandated GPA for a student athlete to be admitted. When it comes to core credits, as long as it meets the State of Georgia entrance requirements, then they’re good (assuming they meet minimum SAT score). We’re talking about a Junior in high school who is trying to re-classify, which means he hasn’t had enough time to take the necessary core credits. It’s been reported that Okeke is a victim of this circumstance. Nothing more than a timing issue
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Nick Marshall did originally get into school at Georgia after all.
And you didn’t, so what does that say about you?
Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:16 am to Glory, Glory
Unless you have a link to a written policy stating this, I don't believe you. I already know 99 percent of Georgia internet posters are delusional as frick about how clean and ethical their school is. I also know athletes are not held to the same entrance requirements as regular students
Even if such a policy does exist, I am still 99 percent certain it has nothing to do with this kid not picking Georgia. He pretty much eliminated Georgia at exactly the same time Georgia's offensive line coach followed Mike Bobo to Colorado State. That timing is not just some weird coincidence
Even if such a policy does exist, I am still 99 percent certain it has nothing to do with this kid not picking Georgia. He pretty much eliminated Georgia at exactly the same time Georgia's offensive line coach followed Mike Bobo to Colorado State. That timing is not just some weird coincidence
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 8:21 am
Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:56 am to auburnphan23
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Students who graduate from high school in 2012 or later must present credits for seventeen (17) specified units. The 16 (17 for students who graduate in 2012 or later) specified USG units are:
MATHEMATICS: Four (4) units of Mathematics, including Algebra I, Algebra II, and Geometry. For students who graduate from a Georgia Public School in 2012 or later, the 4 units of Mathematics must include a course at the level of Math 3 or higher.
ENGLISH: Four (4) units of English which have as their emphasis grammar and usage, literature (American, English, World), and advanced composition skills.
SCIENCE: Three (3) units of science, with at least one laboratory course from the life sciences and one laboratory course from the physical sciences. Students who graduate in 2012 or later must have four (4) units of science. Georgia Public high School graduates must have at least one (1) unit of biology, one (1) unit of physical science or physics, and one (1) unit of chemistry, earth systems, environmental science, or an advanced placement science course.
SOCIAL SCIENCE: Three (3) units of social science, with at least one (1) course focusing on United States studies and one (1) course focusing on world studies.
FOREIGN LANGUAGE: Two (2) units in the same foreign language emphasizing speaking, listening, reading, and writing. Two (2) units of American Sign Language may be used to satisfy this requirement.
In addition to these minimum requirements, students are encouraged to take additional academic units in high school to improve their probability for admission and success.
Undergraduate admissions-University system of Georgia
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High School GPA and Curriculum
While the decision is based upon test scores and high school GPA, students must have completed course requirement in their high school curriculum. These include:
English - 4 years
Social Studies - 3 years
Mathematics - 3 years
This must include 1 year of Algebra I, 1 year of Algebra II, and one year of Geometry, Trigonometry, Calculus, or Analysis
Science - 2 years
This must include 1 year of Biology and 1 year of a Physical Science
By comparison- Undergraduate admissions for prospective Freshmen for the University of Auburn:
Access by pressing the "Requirements" tab
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 8:59 am
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:18 am to JStanDawgFan
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JStanDawgFan
and BOOM
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:28 am to JStanDawgFan
CNN investigated the entrance requirements of college athletes at colleges across the country after the North Carolina scandal, including the high school GPA's, ACT/SAT scores, and any other pertinent information these schools considered when admitting athletes into their school.
Some schools refused to release this information to CNN, but Georgia is one of the colleges who did release it to them. I don't remember all the details, but I remember this information made it crystal clear that athletes at Georgia aren't held to anywhere close to the same standards that regular students at Georgia are held
Some schools refused to release this information to CNN, but Georgia is one of the colleges who did release it to them. I don't remember all the details, but I remember this information made it crystal clear that athletes at Georgia aren't held to anywhere close to the same standards that regular students at Georgia are held
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:30 am to auburnphan23
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Unless you have a link to a written policy stating this, I don't believe you. I already know 99 percent of Georgia internet posters are delusional as frick about how clean and ethical their school is. I also know athletes are not held to the same entrance requirements as regular students
Every school has entrance requirements. This isn't made up nonsense. Just read the shyt Jstan posted. Enlighten yourself.
Also, some schools give waivers for student athletes that can't make the core requirements. UGA doesn't give exceptions. Eric Norwood for instance, was twice denied entrance into USC but he eventually got a waiver because Steve Spurrier threatened to quit.
LINK
And if you are wondering how Nick Marshall got into Georgia. Nick Marshall attended high school in Rochelle Georgia. He met the requirements. He probably had a lot of help considering he was a superstar in basketball and football in Wilcox County. His friend, Lonnie Outlaw was never able to make it into Georgia.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 9:37 am
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:40 am to auburnphan23
So, you ask for a link to prove a statement that you were looking to refute, and a post was provided. The very next post you make is a counterpoint without a link to these finding, and everyone is expected to take it at face value?
Not to mention you are supposedly citing examples from a CNN investigation for a scandal in 2011. The core requirements posted for the University system of Georgia have been strengthen since 2012. So I am not really sure what point you are trying to make.
Not to mention you are supposedly citing examples from a CNN investigation for a scandal in 2011. The core requirements posted for the University system of Georgia have been strengthen since 2012. So I am not really sure what point you are trying to make.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:47 am to auburnphan23
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Some schools refused to release this information to CNN, but Georgia is one of the colleges who did release it to them. I don't remember all the details, but I remember this information made it crystal clear that athletes at Georgia aren't held to anywhere close to the same standards that regular students at Georgia are held
I'll play. Yes, generally, the athletes that go to UGA are not on the same level as the average student who got in. However, JStan provided the info you asked about. It looks like the ENTIRE system has a higher requirement than the state of Alabama has.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:50 am to auburnphan23
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I don't remember all the details, but I remember this information made it crystal clear that athletes at Georgia aren't held to anywhere close to the same standards that regular students at Georgia are held
I could look at the facts provided in the links above, or I could trust your hazy memory of a study that could be spun to fit your theory. Hmmm.
In that study, they looked at 317 athletes admitted to UGA in football and men/women's basketball. 22 students (7.5%) were found to have scored below 400 on the SAT reading/writing section, or below a 16 on the ACT. There isn't a hard requirement that you must score above those levels for admission though - they simply represent a level that is considered "college literate". The same study showed that UGA graduates their athletes at the 2nd highest rate in the conference.
In a way, you are right. They were admitted when a normal student might not have been. But that doesn't change the fact that UGA's basic criteria for admission are tougher than Auburn's (again - read the links provided above).
Very curious about that study though...Auburn never released their information to CNN.
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Go have fun Auburnphan.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:50 am to JStanDawgFan
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what point you are trying to make.
He doesn't like UGA. This is the only point he ever makes that we all believe.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:53 am to Porter Osborne Jr
You're just wasting your time responding to the two auburn trolls. They both have an ax to grind for one reason or another. Their posting histories are just pitiful.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:56 am to GregYoureMyBoyBlue
I know. He's like trying to nail jello to a wall.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 10:06 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I know. I get sucked in every time. As trolls go, he's pretty good.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 10:17 am to JStanDawgFan
I never questioned whether such requirements existed for regular students. I questioned whether one or more athletes could get around such requirements. You still have to believe Georgia discovered this kid was short of core credits at precisely the same moment he would have dropped them anyway due to their offensive line coach leaving. Seems pretty fricking unbelievable to me, but I am not surprised a lot of Georgia posters believe it
Posted on 12/31/14 at 10:32 am to auburnphan23
The answer, based on the CNN report you cited yourself, says no. They appear to get preferential treatment when it comes to the things like test scores, which is true at every school according to the study (and most schools do it much more than UGA if you read the info on schools who submitted info). There is not a minimimum requirement for those scores.
Every athlete who competes at UGA completes the same basic requirements as every other student at UGA.
All that being said - he was gone the moment our offensive coaches left. I don't think grades were at the heart of it.
Every athlete who competes at UGA completes the same basic requirements as every other student at UGA.
All that being said - he was gone the moment our offensive coaches left. I don't think grades were at the heart of it.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 11:16 am to auburnphan23
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I never questioned whether such requirements existed for regular students. I questioned whether one or more athletes could get around such requirements. You still have to believe Georgia discovered this kid was short of core credits at precisely the same moment he would have dropped them anyway due to their offensive line coach leaving. Seems pretty fricking unbelievable to me, but I am not surprised a lot of Georgia posters believe it
I could care less about Okeke's recruitment as it pertains to why he has eliminated and/or dropped them down his list. It still doesn't change the fact that it requires more core credit courses in the University system of Georgia for ANYONE (athlete or otherwise) to gain admission. No one should really be surprised that the argument continuously changes to suit your position.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/31/14 at 11:59 am to JStanDawgFan
quote:I just got this from the NCAA's own website. It seems like Georgia's requirements are really not tougher
To participate in Division I athletics or receive an athletics scholarship during the first year of college, a student-athlete must:
Complete the 16 core-course requirement in eight semesters: 4 years of English
3 years of math (Algebra 1 or higher)
2 years of natural or physical science (including one year of lab science if offered by the high school)
1 extra year of English, math or natural or physical science
2 years of social science
4 years of extra core courses (from any category above, or foreign language, nondoctrinal religion or philosophy)
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