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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:03 am to LSU Patrick
And the fact that a 3* can be the number 200 player in the country or the number 2600 player in the country.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:08 am to REBEL5 AC
Take the 18 4*. You get more quality players and there are bound to be 4-5 guys that step up and you are able to look back and say damn that guy wasn't a 5*. 5*'s are good but you need a team not 3 or 4 players. That's pretty much what UCLA is every year. They get 2 or 3 outstanding guys in every class and the rest is filled with mediocre talent. Ole miss is the same way IMO.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:01 am to ThreauxDown11
That's not true at all. Some of our best players are 3* recruits it's not just the 5* guys. The answer to the simple hypothetical is take the 5* because of the lesser chance of bust compared to the other two tiers of players. In reality both of those classes are probably similar in regards to the numbers of quality players.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:43 am to DMagic
So for the people that want all the 5*s, do you think they are worth 2x a 4* player?
I do agree with the thought that position of the 5* matters.
I do agree with the thought that position of the 5* matters.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:02 am to TexasAg13
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So for the people that want all the 5*s, do you think they are worth 2x a 4* player?
Just depends. Would I take a 5* QB or LT and 3* OC over a 4* QB or LT and 4* OC? Yes. Now would I take a 5* WR and 3* CB over 4* WR and 4* CB? Nah.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:02 am to TexasAg13
just the first numbers I found when I searched but
chance of being drafted
5* 60%
4* 20%
3* 5%
chance of being an all american
5* 25%
4* 6%
3* 2%
Weight the two different classes and the class with the 5*s has more drafted/all americans with a weighted score of 3.195. The class with 18 4*s has a weighted score of 2.585.
Obviously not perfect but I would think the average class with more drafted/all americans would have a better chance of being a good team
chance of being drafted
5* 60%
4* 20%
3* 5%
chance of being an all american
5* 25%
4* 6%
3* 2%
Weight the two different classes and the class with the 5*s has more drafted/all americans with a weighted score of 3.195. The class with 18 4*s has a weighted score of 2.585.
Obviously not perfect but I would think the average class with more drafted/all americans would have a better chance of being a good team
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:17 am to POCKET
Good analysis POCKET.
I guess I see it from a different light watching 3 1st rounders not be able to compete for a championship because there wasn't the necessary talent from top to bottom on the team.
I guess I see it from a different light watching 3 1st rounders not be able to compete for a championship because there wasn't the necessary talent from top to bottom on the team.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:28 am to TexasAg13
Really with no specifics regarding need or position you have to take the 5* using simple statistics. But as we've seen over and over it's all about the coach and development.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:55 am to TexasAg13
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Good analysis POCKET.
I guess I see it from a different light watching 3 1st rounders not be able to compete for a championship because there wasn't the necessary talent from top to bottom on the team.
Thats why the real answer depends on the other 3 recruiting classes currently on campus or what is expected following this hypothetical class. If you consistently pull in the 18 4* with no 5 star classes, than the elite talent would help you more than another truckload of what you usually get.
So to answer this scenario, if my team lacks depth I take the 4 star class but if my team lacks superstar talent than I take the 5 star class.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:43 pm to TexasAg13
2nd
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:18 pm to MMB5DAP
quote:came here to post this
the real answer depends on the other 3 recruiting classes currently on campus or what is expected following this hypothetical class.
But to just to answer the question I would take the 18 4* because its a good chance some of those guys might be underrated and deserving of a 5th star
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:00 pm to TexasAg13
Depends on the positions involved. You can get some damned good linemen and even occasional DBs and TEs at 3* if you're willing to do your own scouting, so stocking up on those gives you the luxury to focus on quality over quantity in the 4-5 star range.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 5:13 am to randomways
As others have said there are too many factors that are not mentioned.
One of the SEC's biggest advantages to the rest of the country are the 3* that get noticed late by an SEC staff because of either limited exposure or sometimes just passed over for bigger names. But too often a "3*" with a great athleticism will become a first round pick because they change positions or have that raw athleticism coached up. I am not saying it only happens in the SEC, but it happens a lot more.
So take the 5* but would need to know more.
One of the SEC's biggest advantages to the rest of the country are the 3* that get noticed late by an SEC staff because of either limited exposure or sometimes just passed over for bigger names. But too often a "3*" with a great athleticism will become a first round pick because they change positions or have that raw athleticism coached up. I am not saying it only happens in the SEC, but it happens a lot more.
So take the 5* but would need to know more.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:16 am to POCKET
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was my mindset as well Solid discussion, gents.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:42 am to Legendary0903
The class with 4 five stars
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:56 pm to TexasAg13
depends on what i got the previous year. did i get a bunch of 5 star dudes, if so i would take the 4 stars this year. you need impact guys and you need depth guys to sustain success
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:58 pm to TexasAg13
Both classes would be a disappointment
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:04 pm to TexasAg13
Based on what Ive seen in 5 star production on the college level and an assumption of 4 stars and less, 5 stars have about a 50% chance of being great, 4 stars 30%, 3 stars 15%. Its almost even as far as probability to get good players between each scenario.
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