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Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:04 am to skirpnasty
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just that I think it's a long shot and will take time.
Long shot that a 17 year old could gain 30 pounds to get to the 280's by his SR year of college? Really?
Nobody said this kid is going to start day 1. He is a project, everyone knows that. How long have you been following football? It can't be very long.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:05 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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AU version of the blindside?
Since this was brought up, can we agree that Coach O was the worst actor of the bunch?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:08 am to skirpnasty
quote:There are so many factors to this that you just ignored that there is no point in trying to explain your faulty logic.
Do you have any idea how long it takes to develop 50 pounds of quality muscle mass? A kid putting on 15 in a year is impressive, if he wants to play as a redshirt sophomore he would need to gain 20 a year in his first two to get to 290.
But I will ask you a quick question...
Do you think it's easier for a 6'0, 220lb 17 year old to add on 30 lbs, or is it easier for a 6'8, 250lb 17 year old to add 30 lbs, or is it the exact same scenario for both?
Your answer will let me know the extent of your knowledge on how the human body works along with human potential.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:10 am to skirpnasty
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I'm not going to say it's impossible, just that I think it's a long shot and will take time
Kid transferred from Africa and has only played a year of football. I think his measurables are the least of his worries for colleges at this point .
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:10 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Long shot that a 17 year old could gain 30 pounds to get to the 280's by his SR year of college? Really?
Nobody said this kid is going to start day 1. He is a project, everyone knows that. How long have you been following football? It can't be very long.
Are you reading the thread? If we consider he has to be 290, which isn't outrageous, it's 40 pounds. He can do it, but as you said it is a project. The problem is that when he gets there physically, there is still an incredible amount of skill and technique required to be effective at that height. I say long shot not because he can't put the weight on, but because even when he does there is a decent chance he pans out to be big and clunky rather than Julius Peppers.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:11 am to joeyb147
And who said he can't add 10-15 lbs of just healthy meat? Dude came from Nigeria. I lived with a Nigerian for a semester. Dude ate baby food to keep skinny for cross country. Give him a steak and he would gain 5 lbs.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:14 am to skirpnasty
You have yet to establish why he needs to be 290 though. What if he is 6'8 280 or maybe even 275? 
Of all the reasons that this kid could be a bust, considering he has 1 year of football experience, why in the world are you harping on his ability to gain wait as the main one?
Of all the reasons that this kid could be a bust, considering he has 1 year of football experience, why in the world are you harping on his ability to gain wait as the main one?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:18 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Didn't South Carolina have a 6'7 or 6'8 DE a few years back that was pretty good. Think he got drafted in the 4th or 5th round or something. He wasn't more than probably 275
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:20 am to GoCrazyAuburn
He ignored what I said about Chris Jones too.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:23 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Preston Sackmaster Smith is also 6'7
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:23 am to joeyb147
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Do you think it's easier for a 6'0, 220lb 17 year old to add on 30 lbs, or is it easier for a 6'8, 250lb 17 year old to add 30 lbs, or is it the exact same scenario for both?
It's not that cut and dry. It takes the same amount of nutrition on a cellular level for either. A larger person is building more muscle tissue with the same amount of exercise but is inherently expending more energy doing so. But then it takes more nutrition for a larger person to exercise effectively due to the extra force required in literally everything they do.
That's not even considering that someone that tall needs much more bone density to offset the added stress that results from bones and ligaments being longer. And the cardio challenges that come with being that large.
That being said, it's easier for a larger person to gain muscle, but that's really simplifying the situation. He's not just having to add muscle, its muscle, developing his cardio with it, and developing proper bone density which isn't as easy to expedite as muscle development. He has a lot of work to do.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:27 am to skirpnasty
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He has a lot of work to do.
So, that means he is a bust?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:29 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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So, that means he is a bust?
Obviously not definitely but it doesn't help his chances.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:33 am to UMRealist
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He ignored what I said about Chris Jones too.
No, not at all. Jones added about 30 pounds in his first year, he put on weight and moved to DT. This kid doesn't have the benefit of being able to gain some garbage weight, if he's going to be at DE it needs to be quality muscle.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:36 am to skirpnasty
Back on topic. He is ours to lose. Bama has never been in the picture. The only thing that worries me is Oregon jumped into the picture. Strange.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:37 am to BigEdLSU
I've killed brain cells reading this thread.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:40 am to Rig
Part of the plan. 
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:45 am to skirpnasty
quote:Margus Hunt, Arik Armstead and Calais Campbell. All 6'8.
Please, show me a single great Deffensive end who is that tall.
Prince Tega Wanogho Jr will gain weight at his college of choice.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:47 am to BigEdLSU
It's the dead period.
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