re: Nations #1 recruit Rashan Gary sets 5 day visit to Auburn

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No. That'd be two: 1957 and 2010. Should have claimed 1983 and 2004.

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You have one title since 1957 is what I meant.

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Georgia produces more SEC talent than any other state. UGA is the flagship school for that state. You should be better historically than you are. There really isn't much of an argument there.

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UGA also has to deal with more geographically central threats to its otherwise large recruiting base than just about any other state (save Texas which still has the added benefit of being roughly 5 times geographically larger). Maybe it produces so much SEC talent because it's so close to schools like Clemson, FSU, UF, Auburn, Alabama, South Carolina, and Tennessee plus the in state schools of UGA and Tech. No other state is as completely surrounded as GA is by major football programs. Every one of those schools is within a few hours of Atlanta and and an even shorter distance from the GA border. Remove the imaginary state lines from the map and UGA is just another dot in a massive recruitng hotbed.

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Auburn was undefeated in '58, '93, '04, and '10. Should have been national champs in '83. All from a non-state school competing against (3) state schools in their recruiting area (Georgia, Florida, and Alabama).

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How in the world is AU the greatest overachiever?

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We are a top 10-12 program in CFB history. While being the #2 school in a poor state that produces modest football players.

Oh, the #1 school what we compete against is either the best or second best program in the country.

We have always played the most difficult schedules in the SEC and for years and years played bama, UT, UGA, and Florida every year while the Vandy, Kentucky, Ole Miss's etc... rarely rotated on the schedule.

We have 3 undefeated seasons in the last 20 years (more than any other team in the SEC and equaled only by Nebraska, though their last was 17 years ago).

We won a national title by going undefeated in arguably the most difficult division ever. We went undefeated in 2004 dominating as much as any SEC team has in recent memory and have the best claim to a national title that season. We also easily have the best claim to a national title in 1983 and were :13 away from what could have been another less than two years ago.

Imagine what we would do as the state school in a football factory like Georgia.

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The one national championship Auburn has in 2010 matches Georgia's total for their entire history in the AP, coaches poll, and BCS.

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Congrats on finally catching up to us 30 years later.

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You don't even have a legitimate claim to even play for a national title since Herschel left school.

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Legitimate claim? Auburn has played in two national title games. Granted that's two more than UGA in that span but please save me this 1983 and 2004 bullshite. You don't see us parading around 2002 and 2007 and 2012 in this thread as some kind of asinine claim when we were so close but just missed. You fell short somehow in the eyes of those that mattered so tough shite. There are two times in history since 1957 when Auburn played in a national title game and they won 1 of those times.

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While being the #2 school in a poor state that produces modest football players.

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Spare me. You're less than an hour from the GA border and an hour and a half from Atlanta. Know how far Athens is from Atlanta? An hour and a half.

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We have always played the most difficult schedules in the SEC and for years and years played bama, UT, UGA, and Florida every year while the Vandy, Kentucky, Ole Miss's etc... rarely rotated on the schedule.

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And we have played y'all, Ga Tech, UF, and a mixture of Tennessee and Clemson most every year. Unless you're going to give me a breakdown of all of our opponents over the past 25 years and definitively prove that Auburn has been fighting the most uphill of battles, I'm not buying the "our schedule has been the most difficult" argument. Everyone plays tough games at different times of the year.

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We have 3 undefeated seasons in the last 20 years (more than any other team in the SEC and equaled only by Nebraska, though their last was 17 years ago).

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And one national title to show for it. So either your SOS hasn't been as tough as you'd like to think or the voters must not have thought as highly of Auburn as Auburn fans do.

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We won a national title by going undefeated in arguably the most difficult division ever.

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It helps to have arguably the best SEC QB ever (or does that excuse only work with UGA and the Herschel years?)

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We went undefeated in 2004 dominating as much as any SEC team has in recent memory and have the best claim to a national title that season.

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We also easily have the best claim to a national title in 1983

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No trophy, no claim (at least that's what I keep getting told when we try to claim the 1942 title).

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and were :13 away from what could have been another less than two years ago.

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And we were 5 yards away in 2012. shite happens and everyone but you and I forget about the could-have-beens.

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Imagine what we would do as the state school in a football factory like Georgia.

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Probably bumblefrick your way through mediocre seasons, an occasional losing season, and some really good years. Just like UGA and AUburn have been doing

I stand corrected on the recruits.

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1983 and 2004 bull shite. You don't see us parading around 2002 and 2007 and 2012 in this thread as some kind of asinine claim when we were so close but just missed.

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We didn't "just miss" in 1983 and 2004. We "just missed" in 2013. Falling short and getting screwed are two totally different things.

1983 we were inarguably the most deserving team of the title and in 2004 we went undefeated and got screwed by a terrible system. Events after the fact only made it inarguable 2004 Auburn deserved to be recognized as national champions as well.

You had no claim to get in over LSU in 2007 when they won the SEC and you didn't even win the eastern division

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Spare me. You're less than an hour from the GA border and an hour and a half from Atlanta. Know how far Athens is from Atlanta? An hour and a half.

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Come on man, you're smarter than this. It's a MASSIVE advantage to be the state school when recruiting in state. Especially when you're the state school competing against a school from another state.

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And we have played y'all, Ga Tech, UF, and a mixture of Tennessee and Clemson most every year. Unless you're going to give me a breakdown of all of our opponents over the past 25 years and definitively prove that Auburn has been fighting the most uphill of battles, I'm not buying the "our schedule has been the most difficult" argument. Everyone plays tough games at different times of the year.

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Well I'm definitely not going to take the time to do that but you can look at schools all time series against each other and how AU compares with most other SEC schools and see pretty easily. UGA has done better than most with OOC scheduling over the years though.

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And one national title to show for it. So either your SOS hasn't been as tough as you'd like to think or the voters must not have thought as highly of Auburn as Auburn fans do.

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Well 2004 was just a joke of a season and the other one was 1993 and we were on probation, which is why I don't bring it up from a national standpoint. In that case we had only ourselves to blame. As to your second point that goes back to being the second school in a small state. In the only sport in the world where media has a major influence we are rarely, if ever, going to get the benefit of the doubt.

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It helps to have arguably the best SEC QB ever (or does that excuse only work with UGA and the Herschel years?)

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Sure does and I don't take anything away from UGA did in the early 80s.

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No trophy, no claim (at least that's what I keep getting told when we try to claim the 1942 title).

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I don't know anything about your 1942 but the people who say that when discussing college football are morons.

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And we were 5 yards away in 2012. shite happens and everyone but you and I forget about the could-have-beens.

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For sure, but that was as close as you've been. That was our 3rd or 4th best chance in that time frame.

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Probably bumblefrick your way through mediocre seasons, an occasional losing season, and some really good years. Just like UGA and AUburn have been doing

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Very possibly, and we'll never know but I'd sure take my chances.

In all seriousness I'm really not trying to flame. It's damn near impossible not to acknowledge UGA has been a major underachiever since Herschel left 30+ years ago. As a GA resident the program scares me to death because of what it has the potential to be and any given year they may finally start to realize that potential but it's not prudent to put up much of a fight trying to argue the underachiever label at this point in time.

I mean AU is probably the most inconsistent team in the country, I have no problem admitting that.