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re: Major changes coming in recruiting..
Posted on 1/11/17 at 4:37 pm to chattabama
Posted on 1/11/17 at 4:37 pm to chattabama
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On one hand, the kid won't get Carter'd
Are you referring to Toneil Carter? If so, he's hardly the poster child for a recruit who gets dropped late. Chubb and Michel announced they were returning on 12/15, Carter decommitted on 12/19. That means as soon as an unexpected roster event took place, Georgia coaches informed him very quickly that he needed to look elsewhere. So he had plenty of time and good scholarship opportunities to choose from.
Plus, the third Wednesday in December was the 21st this year, so that rule (as specified in the OP) wouldn't have prevented him from getting "Carter'd" anyway, because Georgia pulled his offer before the presumptive early signing day. We just couldn't handle 7 tailbacks next year, needed depth elsewhere.
Not saying Smart is a saint, but there are plenty of coaches who've played a lot dirtier recruiting games than this example.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 5:07 pm
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:21 pm to chattabama
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I guess that one is a split for the kid. On one hand, the kid won't get Carter'd. On the other hand, they may have to make a decision sooner than they'd like.
Patrick Miller would be a better example.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:27 pm to thunderbird1100
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I feel like the NCAA may be trying to think of ways to make some of the top talent spread out a little more and this is one of those secretive ways.
If they want to spread the talent around, make it a 70 scholarship cap instead of 85.
That's 3 deep at every position, plus four extras to play with.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:34 pm to gatordmb89
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-No more back counting schollies
That's bullshite. If a kid enrolls in the middle of the academic year, that scholarship should be able to count for the current academic year if scholarship space is available at the time (back counting is actually current counting). Otherwise, the scholarship counts toward the following academic year when Fall Semester starts.
What exactly is wrong with this? What unfair advantage does this give big schools over little shitty poor schools?
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:37 pm to gatordmb89
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-Early signing day on 3rd Wednesday of December
I've looked at an early signing day from a couple of different angles, and I can't find an angle that makes the athlete come out ahead.
It boils down to this- Nick Saban likes an early signing day, so I'm against it.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:01 pm to gatordmb89
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-No more back counting schollies
Wow, that's huge
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:40 pm to gatordmb89
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-No more back counting schollies
I'm not sure how they can enforce this unless both signing periods in a calendar year count towards the same academic year.
The current rule is that you can only sign 25 players that will be on campus each academic year. Since the academic year goes from July - May, they would have to make substantial changes to change this.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:01 pm to memphisplaya
No back counting is a terrible idea. Players transfer because of playing time, family issues or they graduate and the university doesn't offer their advanced degree. Schools will not have an 85 man roster which hurts depth. I like the early signing period and like the 10th coach in the field. Early signing period protects kids and schools.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:24 pm to fibonaccisquared
In that link, the redshirt change would actually be better for the athlete at least.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:58 am to wdhalgren
Gotta love how he uses UGA as an example when we gave the kid over a month to find a school and there are numerous examples of kids losing their offer the day before NSD including his own precious Bama.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:50 am to wdhalgren
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Not saying Smart is a saint, but there are plenty of coaches who've played a lot dirtier recruiting games than this example.
Paging Darius Philon...
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:32 am to chattabama
A decision has to be made regardless, just adjust.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:35 am to Blanky6715
Is there a link to this ?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:15 pm to AUWDE
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Paging Darius Philon...
I was fine with that
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:42 pm to gatordmb89
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-No more back counting schollies
Stupid
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-10th on field coach is coming
Solid
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-If recruiting a player from High School A, their HC cannot work any summer camps at your institution. Gone are the days of a coach packing up 5-10 players and taking them out of state for a summer camp, more than likely.
Stupid. They drive the kids to these camps.
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-Early signing day on 3rd Wednesday of December
Solid.
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-If you have recruited player A, a college cannot hire player A's coach until a 2 year window has closed.
This really fricks up the career path of a lot of coaches. That is some bullshite.
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-July could become a dead period, eliminating many big time camps around the country.
I have no opinion. Maybe this will level playing field among programs with different levels of financial power?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:39 pm to TheCaterpillar
I think it's BS they are going to try to dictate who some can/can't hire.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:48 pm to Pavoloco83
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I dont see how this could work. if you coach at a successful HS program with a lot of regular talent coming through the door, such as IMG academy or some other schools, you might never get an opportunity to coach at the college level.
You can't hire them for an off the field role for the 2 years before and 2 years after their anticipated enrollment and it extends to anyone "associated" with the prospect, not just their coach.
So if you are hiring them to actually be a coach, that is fine. But if you want to hire 5* QBs brother to work in the football office, you can't do that.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:51 pm to Crowknowsbest
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The only one of those that makes any sense is the 10th on field coach
There should be a limit on practice time coaches or advisors. Some teams can't afford 30 or 40 coaches like Alabama.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:53 pm to gatordmb89
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-If you have recruited player A, a college cannot hire player A's coach until a 2 year window has closed
What about a girl friend?
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