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re: Georgia Separating Itself from the East

Posted on 12/20/16 at 7:50 am to
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 7:50 am to
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It helps to have seniors like Foster, Allen, Anderson, and Williams in the front 7. I bet they are each projected to go in the 1st round, but yea, Bama hasnt benefitted from having elite SR's at all


Be careful on your way down after making that leap
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 8:30 am to
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If you can point to facts and stats that say otherwise, then go ahead.



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Recruiting is only roughly 15 percent of a program's success, and the other 85 percent is suspect.




Those are some nice facts and stats you're throwing out
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:23 am to
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Kirby will likely not be around to his this class become juniors


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If you can point to facts and stats that say otherwise,


this is why nobody takes your shitty alter seriously.
Posted by Pride of Georgia
Wadley, GA
Member since Sep 2016
662 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:27 am to
It's also why no one takes UGA seriously
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:38 am to
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It's also why no one takes UGA seriously


People don't take UGA seriously because of the shitty alter you've created?

Now I know you're not a techie, gotta be phan.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 10:48 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:33 am to
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careful on your way down after making that leap


I guess this is your way of finally admitting A team can be helped by an elite sr class or hurt by a weak one.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:36 am to
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point to facts and stats that say otherwise, then go ahead.


Less than 7% of coaches are fired after their 3 season.

Also, talent is much more than 15% of success. I read it was closer to 50%.
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:51 am to
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I guess this is your way of finally admitting A team can be helped by an elite sr class or hurt by a weak one.


Since you need a summary:


Its my way of saying senior classes are important(something I never denied), but UGA's handling of the guys from the '13 class once they got on campus is what put UGA in a precarious position this season resulting in a poor record (not necessarily the actual recruitment of the '13 class itself), despite the fact that UGA STILL had the 6th most talented roster in the country according to 247 sports.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20345 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:56 am to
So is it a precarious situation or are we loaded with talent?
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 11:09 am to
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So is it a precarious situation or are we loaded with talent?


You are UGA, so its obviously both



*Insert dumpster fire gif*
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20345 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 11:12 am to
Damn man, you aren't even trying anymore.

Still would love to see how we're so loaded at any position besides RB.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 11:26 am to
So this is your way acknowledging the flaws of the 247 roster composite?

You forgot to include your previous post in your summary. Not signing many top notch recruits was the main issue of the 2013 class. That was a class that was filled with quantity rather than quality. Do you understand the meaning of those 2 words?

Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 11:43 am to
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So this is your way acknowledging the flaws of the 247 roster composite?



I've said 2 or 3 times just in this thread that the recruiting composite isn't an exact science, but its a good general guideline.

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That was a class that was filled with quantity rather than quality



Maybe the coaching staff felt like there would be depth issues and wanted to sign more guys, and there were some misses that they thought they would land so they went with filler? Was it a weak year in the state of GA? What other programs were having big years at the time that could have hurt UGA's recruiting? You want to go into depth, or just cry about the fact that your coaching couldn't keep a decent not great class on campus long enough to actually contribute this year? Lets really break this down brah.
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 11:47 am to
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Damn man, you aren't even trying anymore. Still would love to see how we're so loaded at any position besides RB.


So you guys aren't loaded anywhere else, but are somehow expecting to have the best defense you've had in years when the 2014 class (recruited by Richt) and the 2015 class (Largely recruited by Richt, signed by Kirby) will be the juniors and seniors next year?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:09 pm to
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just cry about the fact that your coaching couldn't keep a decent not great class on campus long enough to actually contribute this year?

UGA didn't just cry about it. Mark Richt got fired because of it.
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:10 pm to
If only the fans ITT could move on as well
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:13 pm to
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If only the fans ITT could move on as well


We are moving on, but it's not unreasonable to acknowledge a problem from the past.
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:21 pm to
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We are moving on, but it's not unreasonable to acknowledge a problem from the past.



Not saying it isn't, I'm saying complaining about the class itself is dumb. It was still one of the top in the country. Complain about the guys leaving/being criminals all you want, the recruitment itself wouldn't have caused this type of problem this season if the class would have stayed together better post-signing day.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:26 pm to
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Not saying it isn't, I'm saying complaining about the class itself is dumb. It was still one of the top in the country. Complain about the guys leaving/being criminals all you want

IMO this is what most people are doing, and there's a lot of overlap in complaints about recruiting and the class' ultimate success or failure.

Silver lining: UGA is now returning a lot of talented guys that have played a ton because those upperclassmen weren't around.
Posted by Shawn Spencer
The Spirit World
Member since Nov 2011
1185 posts
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:27 pm to
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Recruiting is only roughly 15 percent of a program's success, and the other 85 percent is suspect.


That must be true, statistics don't lie. 78% of all people know that
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