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re: Andrew Wiggins To Announce Possibly Tuesday
Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:12 am to GatorsGators
Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:12 am to GatorsGators
It was your subconscious telling you the truth.
It's okay. Just own it.
It's okay. Just own it.
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:13 am to Henry Jones Jr
Who here thinks Wiggins will sign with Kentucky?
Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:14 am to UKWildcatsFAN
I've learned to never doubt Cal in recruiting. I'll guess Kentucky.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:15 am to GatorsGators
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I've learned to never doubt Cal in recruiting. I'll guess Kentucky.
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And because he's a greasy slimeball...
Still wondering why you call Cal a greasy slimeball?
Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:25 am to UKWildcatsFAN
Obviously nothing concrete (and I obviously know nothing about him as a person), but his history at Memphis and UMass as well as the fact that no one in the history of collegiate athletics has ever legally recruited at the level at which Cal is currently recruiting makes me, well, skeptical.
And yeah, it's true, he's the basketball coach at Kentucky. That certainly doesn't help.
And yeah, it's true, he's the basketball coach at Kentucky. That certainly doesn't help.
This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 1:27 am
Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:33 am to BluegrassBelle
My subconscious is feeding me lies... 
Posted on 5/12/13 at 1:47 am to GatorsGators
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Obviously nothing concrete (and I obviously know nothing about him as a person),
Then imo you shouldn't call him a scumbag if he's not one.
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the fact that no one in the history of collegiate athletics has ever legally recruited at the level at which Cal is currently recruiting makes me, well, skeptical.
#1 High School Player->Kentucky->#1 NBA DRAFT
It's really quite simple why players want to play for him.
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And yeah, it's true, he's the basketball coach at Kentucky. That certainly doesn't help
Now that I can understand.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 7:47 am to UKWildcatsFAN
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Just because your on a team doesn't mean you have the right to play. If they are happy with being on the team then let them be. The reason people get processed is because of NCAA rules and regulations. This is an amature sport and you should be able to have as many kids on the team as you want and they should get rid of scholarships.
Hmm I agree with you besides the bullshite about having as many players on the team that you want. Just don't get how people jump down Saban throat and this is way more obvious. I mean damn yall are about to sign 9 people.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 8:54 am to Tide or Die87
Kentucky is 1 and done U. Players have 1 year to make it to the NBA or dat arse gets bounced. NBA wants to replace D-League with Kentucky but they refuse to budge on the 1and done rule. Seriously though they've definitely figured out how to manage the 1 and done Era.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 9:13 am to UKWildcatsFAN
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#1 High School Player->Kentucky->#1 NBA DRAFT
Wiggins could go shoot hoops at a D2 school and still be the #1 pick
This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 9:22 am
Posted on 5/12/13 at 9:17 am to TheOcean
Exactly this year just proves that he is a average coach. Guys like D. Rose, and the eyebrow were going to the league with or without him.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 9:51 am to sdmlsu1
Since Cal got her we've had 10 one and dones, about 2 and 1/2 a year on a 13 man roster. Is that really some crazy number? Just because your team can't do it doesn't mean that's ALL our team is.
He's actually had 11 players graduate early or on time in those same years.
He's actually had 11 players graduate early or on time in those same years.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 10:03 am to TheOcean
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Wiggins could go shoot hoops at a D2 school and still be the #1 pick
Exactly, It's an absurd notion some huge type of developing goes on by a college basketball coach in less than a year. What they are at the end of the year they ar ein the same mind pretty much of NBA teams as they were back at the end of high school.
Sure, if it was 2 or 3 and done and they had 2-3 years in college, I'd buy they get developed some. Less than a year though? LOL, get out of here. Calipari does nothing with the freshman except put them in his system and hope it works with their high talent levels.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 10:06 am to thunderbird1100
Calipari can coach OADs like no other D1 coach, though.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 10:08 am to TheOcean
The funny part is if you stay beyond your freshman...well, I'll go sophomore year with Cal at Kentucky, you are pretty much mediocre to suck these days.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 10:36 am to UKWildcatsFAN
quote:That's usually true at any school.
#1 High School Player->Kentucky->#1 NBA DRAFT
It's really quite simple why players want to play for him.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 11:01 am to thunderbird1100
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The funny part is if you stay beyond your freshman...well, I'll go sophomore year with Cal at Kentucky, you are pretty much mediocre to suck these days.
Liggins, Lamb, Jones, and Miller are all on NBA rosters. The only one I know of who isn't is Harrelson and it's pretty much a miracle he made one to begin with (he's at the very least overseas now).
As far as the development comments, having watched some of those guys early in the season vs. late in the season I'd have to respectfully disagree. At the very least they come out much better defensively then they were running around on the AAU circuit. And a guy like Ben Howland later in his tenure at UCLA is a good example of what can go wrong with top players if you don't have the ability to manage them. And if you've ever seen a practice with Cal you'd know he's not just rolling the balls out either.
ETA: Now of course Wiggins could go to a small school and still be the #1 pick. He would if he was coming out of high school too because we all know the NBA drafts for potential. That's not a testament against Cal as much as how high Wiggins ceiling is. That said, Cal also helps kids be mentally ready for the NBA, just look up the work he did with MKG.
This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 11:06 am
Posted on 5/12/13 at 11:11 am to DayBowBow
Stop talking sense and giving facts, we don't need that here.
Next they're going to tell you that the couple of one and dones at UK have ruined the whole 300+ teams of CBB. Not the Bo Ryan's of the basketball world that have slowed the game to a snail's pace, the shot clock, the inconsistent block/charge calls, the inconsistent officiating in general, or the lack of fundamentals taught in AAU ball where they spend majority of their time anymore.
Next they're going to tell you that the couple of one and dones at UK have ruined the whole 300+ teams of CBB. Not the Bo Ryan's of the basketball world that have slowed the game to a snail's pace, the shot clock, the inconsistent block/charge calls, the inconsistent officiating in general, or the lack of fundamentals taught in AAU ball where they spend majority of their time anymore.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 2:15 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Liggins, Lamb, Jones, and Miller are all on NBA rosters. The only one I know of who isn't is Harrelson and it's pretty much a miracle he made one to begin with (he's at the very least overseas now).
Liggins was a Gillispie recruit
Lamb only stayed to sophomore year
Jones only stayed to sophomore year
Miller was a Gillispie recruit
So my point still stands. I said "these days" and if you're a junior/senior under Calipari (and recruited by him), you are pretty much mediocre to suck while continuing to get beat out by the 1 and 2 and dones that are vaulting through the program now.
Check out Kentucky's juniors and seniors last season...
Jon Hood
Jarrod Polson
Twany Beckham
Julius Mays
...hmm, yeah...
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As far as the development comments, having watched some of those guys early in the season vs. late in the season I'd have to respectfully disagree.
I think the kids get much better not through coaching in less than a year than they do by simply playing much better competition and adjusting to that. I find it very hard to believe actual fundamental development by coaching takes place in less than 1 year with a 1 and done. They may pick up a thing or two, but not enough to call it any sort of "development". It truly takes at least 2 possibly 3 years to "develop" a kid from high school.
Posted on 5/12/13 at 2:35 pm to thunderbird1100
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So my point still stands.
You said 2 or 3 done. Lamb and Jones both fall under that. Or are you just changing it to suit your argument now?
As far as Miller, Gillispie just about broke him. The ground Cal had to make up with him to get him to a point where he could make a NBA roster was pretty steep. But I'm guessing we're not going to count the fact that Cal had him for two whole seasons either.
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Check out Kentucky's juniors and seniors last season...
One again, you said TWO or three done.
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I think the kids get much better not through coaching in less than a year than they do by simply playing much better competition and adjusting to that. I find it very hard to believe actual fundamental development by coaching takes place in less than 1 year with a 1 and done. They may pick up a thing or two, but not enough to call it any sort of "development". It truly takes at least 2 possibly 3 years to "develop" a kid from high school.
Like I said, call me when you see a Cal practice before you make that judgement.
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