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re: 5 star QB Justin Fields Decommits from Penn State
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:08 pm to ChopBlockOclock
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:08 pm to ChopBlockOclock
In like 30 years of coaching at major college programs Jimbo has produced one solid NFL contributor at QB. This QB guru thing is laughable.
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:18 pm to RandySavage
Unfortunately, it's less about NFL production and more about just getting there. Jimbo can point to Jamarcus, EJ, Jameis, and Ponder. Only 1 of those guys truly was a 1st rounder yet all went top 20.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:59 pm to RandySavage
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In like 30 years of coaching at major college programs Jimbo has produced one solid NFL contributor at QB. This QB guru thing is laughable
What a stupid statement.
All Jimbo can do is get them there. What they do from there is not on him.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:10 pm to ChopBlockOclock
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All feelings out of it
Yeah, I can tell a ga tech fan is wearing their objective hat when they show up on an SEC recruiting board to comment on a #1 recruit who's considering their only true "rival" (actually the only reason for your program to exist). Tech fans can't even take their "feelings" for Georgia out of the discussion when our mascot dies, or our announcer dies, or one of our players gets seriously injured, much less when it comes to matters of football. But obviously that radical Georgia hatred isn't what motivated you to troll the Georgia fans on the SEC recruiting board with comments like
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cant see UGA as the strongest option. Chaney cant develop anything other than an appetite.
Your "outsiders perspective" is nothing of the sort, just a weak flame at the team that has beaten tech nearly 75% of the time for the last half century. Trolling on the recruiting board is frowned upon, BTW.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:43 pm to wdhalgren
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Yeah, I can tell a ga tech fan is wearing their objective hat when they show up on an SEC recruiting board to comment on a #1 recruit who's considering their only true "rival" (actually the only reason for your program to exist). Tech fans can't even take their "feelings" for Georgia out of the discussion when our mascot dies, or our announcer dies, or one of our players gets seriously injured, much less when it comes to matters of football. But obviously that radical Georgia hatred isn't what motivated you to troll the Georgia fans on the SEC recruiting board
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:01 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Yeah, I can tell a ga tech fan is wearing their objective hat when they show up on an SEC recruiting board to comment on a #1 recruit who's considering their only true "rival" (actually the only reason for your program to exist). Tech fans can't even take their "feelings" for Georgia out of the discussion when our mascot dies, or our announcer dies, or one of our players gets seriously injured, much less when it comes to matters of football. But obviously that radical Georgia hatred isn't what motivated you to troll the Georgia fans on the SEC recruiting board
And yet GA Tech has won a NC more recently than UGA...
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:19 pm to Beuter Perkins
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And yet GA Tech has won a NC more recently than UGA...
And another ACC troll comes out of the woodworks, this one posing as an Alabama fan. I can see logic isn't your strong point, but I'm guessing that's pretty common for FSU fans (your posting history gives it away).
Anyway, your comment doesn't serve as a rebuttal to mine. In fact it's completely irrelevant to the point I was making, that our tech poster was not as objective as he claimed and his analysis was intended as a troll. You might as well have said, "And yet, UGA kicked FSU's tail the last time they played". It makes just as much sense in this context.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 4:38 pm to Beuter Perkins
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And yet GA Tech has won a NC more recently than UGA...
People keep saying this as if it is remotely relevant. One was 27 years ago. The other 37. Both are completely meaningless and irrelevant to where both programs stand today.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:16 pm to ChopBlockOclock
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Depth is deep at UGA at QB.
Do you understand what deep means? FSU has more QB's than UGA does.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:31 pm to Beuter Perkins
If your calling card is developing QBs but your QBs have a long history of not being ready for the next level it's absolutely a fair criticism.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:15 am to gatorhata9
The fact that people say that is them basically admitting we are twice the program GT is becaue it's supposed to be surprising.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 6:35 am to dhuck20
Some feelings up in this thread. Yikes. I like how yall are conveniently discrediting a really recent guy named Jameis Winston whonis currently starting and doing well in Tampa. There are a ton of guys from a lot of programs that excelled in college but failed in the NFL.
Auburn has Cam. What happened to Nick Marshall?
UGA - Got Stafford. What about David Greene, DJ Shockley, Aaron Murray? All got their but floundered. Granted non under Chaney. But none if Chaneys guys have gone up except Brees an eternity ago.
Jimbo is plenty good at developing QBs at the college level. An extremely good track record. His QBs have gotten a shot at the NFL which is what recruits look at. The opportunity to GET to the next level. What happens beyond college is on the player. If Jimbo gets them to the NFL then he has done his job. Its not Jimbos fault if they dont pan out at the next level. This is a point Chuck Oliver made on his collegd show some weeks ago and its true.
Those of you who think Jimbos ability to shape QBs and give them the shot in the NFL is a sham simply because a handful of them went to the NFL and didnt have long careers at that level are just spouting hypocritical generalizations because you dont like the song I am singing.
In Jimbos 7 years at LSU he had 6 QBs drafted and at FSU he has 3 drafted all in the first round and all three started in the NFL for at least a season and one is currently ballin out but thats a testament to Dirk Koetter putting Winston in good position and having Mike Evans doesnt hurt. Of his LSU QBs Jamarcus Russell and Matt Flynn all got big contracts. Jamarcus lost his shite in Oakland which isnt on Fisher. Fisher got him there and thats what counts.
The fact that there is even an argument that Jimbo is a sham at developing QBs is complete ignorance by those who have their feelings all up Justin Fields.
www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/71565/jimbo-fisher-knows-how-to-groom-qbs
Auburn has Cam. What happened to Nick Marshall?
UGA - Got Stafford. What about David Greene, DJ Shockley, Aaron Murray? All got their but floundered. Granted non under Chaney. But none if Chaneys guys have gone up except Brees an eternity ago.
Jimbo is plenty good at developing QBs at the college level. An extremely good track record. His QBs have gotten a shot at the NFL which is what recruits look at. The opportunity to GET to the next level. What happens beyond college is on the player. If Jimbo gets them to the NFL then he has done his job. Its not Jimbos fault if they dont pan out at the next level. This is a point Chuck Oliver made on his collegd show some weeks ago and its true.
Those of you who think Jimbos ability to shape QBs and give them the shot in the NFL is a sham simply because a handful of them went to the NFL and didnt have long careers at that level are just spouting hypocritical generalizations because you dont like the song I am singing.
In Jimbos 7 years at LSU he had 6 QBs drafted and at FSU he has 3 drafted all in the first round and all three started in the NFL for at least a season and one is currently ballin out but thats a testament to Dirk Koetter putting Winston in good position and having Mike Evans doesnt hurt. Of his LSU QBs Jamarcus Russell and Matt Flynn all got big contracts. Jamarcus lost his shite in Oakland which isnt on Fisher. Fisher got him there and thats what counts.
The fact that there is even an argument that Jimbo is a sham at developing QBs is complete ignorance by those who have their feelings all up Justin Fields.
www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/71565/jimbo-fisher-knows-how-to-groom-qbs
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:42 am to ChopBlockOclock
I realize you're trolling, but Stafford "floundered"?
Thanks for the chuckle this morning
Thanks for the chuckle this morning
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:27 am to ChopBlockOclock
Agree to disagree I guess. I think part of your job is preparing kids to be successful at the next level. That's kind of the whole point of college for any profession.
It's not all on him what happens when they move on but when you have a 25+ year history of producing failures and busts it's not something that can be ignored or a coincidence imo.
A handful? Again, Jimbo has been coaching at a high level for 25 years. He has ONE QB who has a chance to be even a decent pro and it's pretty hard to look at the Jimbo/Jameis relationship as something positive. Those two were a complete clown show together for Winston's entire FSU career.
I don't disagree here at all but there aren't articles all over the Internet talking about how any of these guys are gurus. Cam and Stafford both probably have more NFL stats, starts, wins etc... than all of Jimbo's QB's combined.
FTR, I really, really hope Fields goes to FSU over UGA so this isn't some head in the sand opinion. It's facts based on 25 years of data and results.
Also, if it makes you happy Chaney sucks too but I think everyone already knows that.
It's not all on him what happens when they move on but when you have a 25+ year history of producing failures and busts it's not something that can be ignored or a coincidence imo.
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Those of you who think Jimbos ability to shape QBs and give them the shot in the NFL is a sham simply because a handful of them went to the NFL and didnt have long careers at that level are just spouting hypocritical generalizations because you dont like the song I am singing.
A handful? Again, Jimbo has been coaching at a high level for 25 years. He has ONE QB who has a chance to be even a decent pro and it's pretty hard to look at the Jimbo/Jameis relationship as something positive. Those two were a complete clown show together for Winston's entire FSU career.
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Auburn has Cam. What happened to Nick Marshall?
UGA - Got Stafford. What about David Greene, DJ Shockley, Aaron Murray? All got their but floundered. Granted non under Chaney. But none if Chaneys guys have gone up except Brees an eternity ago.
I don't disagree here at all but there aren't articles all over the Internet talking about how any of these guys are gurus. Cam and Stafford both probably have more NFL stats, starts, wins etc... than all of Jimbo's QB's combined.
FTR, I really, really hope Fields goes to FSU over UGA so this isn't some head in the sand opinion. It's facts based on 25 years of data and results.
Also, if it makes you happy Chaney sucks too but I think everyone already knows that.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 8:32 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:29 am to ChopBlockOclock
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none of Chaneys guys have gone up except Brees an eternity ago
Once again, you prove to be a troll and a liar to boot. Both of Chaney's qb's at Tennessee were drafted, Tyler Bray and Johnathan Crompton. His only qb at Arkansas, Brandon Allen was drafted last year. Nathan Peterman, who started out under Chaney at Tennessee, later followed Chaney to Pittsburgh and was drafted this spring also. So that's Chaney's last 4 starting quarterbacks at three different programs, all drafted, none of them an "eternity ago".
Those are the only years I checked, but enough to prove that you're nothing but a bitter tech troll who suffers from the same mental derangement of little brother syndrome as the rest of your fan base.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 9:13 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:35 am to ChopBlockOclock
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recent guy named Jameis Winston
Ya that fricking guy was a POS and Jimbo an even bigger POS for covering for him.
If Mr and Mrs Fields care about their son they will keep him away from that guy and his inexplicable defense of Winston. Winston should have been dismissed from FSU for the shite he did.
That dick head cost FSU almost a million bucks
Crab Legs Dumbass
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:41 pm to Sandwich
All of that is true but wasn't Kirby at Alabama when they recruited Johnathan Taylor?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 2:48 pm to RandySavage
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wasn't Kirby at Alabama when they recruited Johnathan Taylor?
what's your point, you know kirby wasn't the head coach at bama right?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:01 pm to WG_Dawg
Yea true, he was a puppet. Fair point.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 3:10 pm to RandySavage
All assistant coaches are puppets, apparently.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 3:11 pm
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