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re: Your List of SEC College football Coaches from Best to Worst.

Posted on 2/19/12 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 12:03 pm to
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wrong. their head to head record is 3-3, so i'd say neither one is clearly ahead of the other.


And one of those losses was in 2007 when Alabama finished 7-6 and LSU finished 12-2.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 12:21 pm to
I've been to about 20 LSU games and tailgated many more. I also have a TV that catches CBS and ESPN. I've seen the SEC play

Again, it's a guess where Pinkel, Sumlin and Freeze fit in.

Sumlin was 12-1 last year and a Bear Bryany COY finalist for the 2nd time in 3 years. I dont think I over-slotted him at all.

And I obviously don't think highly of Chizik as a coach. Just my opinion. I wouldn't trade anybody I slotted above him to get him despite his NC title. I would much rather have Mack Brown than Chizik who are the two worst coaches IMO to win the BCS.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19768 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 12:24 pm to
Anyone who believes that Coach Miles is as proficient in football X and O's as Coach Saban is simply kidding themselves. Both men make mistakes, however I feel Coach Saban learns quicker and makes the necessary adjustments much more quickly that Coach Miles at this point.

Coach Miles seems to be more of a Father figure/friend where Coach Saban is more of a disciplinarian/educator. Both are very good at what they do and seem to have settled into their individual styles quite successfully.

From a recruiting standpoint, Coach Miles has yet to master the job like Coach Saban, end of story. I love Coach Miles and even when he's standing on the sideline with that 1,000 yard blank stare on his face I'm still glad he's at LSU and leading our football team.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42397 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 12:30 pm to
1. Nick Saban
2. Bob Petrino
3. Steve Spurrier
4. Mark Richt
5. Les Miles
6. Mean Gene Chiclets
7. James Franklin
8. Gary Pinkel
9. Kevin Sumlin
10. Will Muschamp
11. Derek Dooley
12. Hugh Freeze
13. Dan Mullen
14. Joker Phillips
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29192 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 12:33 pm to

Lol there is zero analysis here, does this represent the final BCS rankings?

1. Les Miles
2. Nick Saban
3. Mark Richt
4. Gary Pinkel
5. Steve Spurrier
6. Bobby Petrino
7. Gene Chizik
8. Dan Mullen
9. Hugh Freeze
10. James Franklin
11. Joker Phillips
12. Kevin Sumlin
13. Derek Dooley
14. Will Muschamp



Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 12:55 pm to
We will soon find out if Geno is a one hit wonder
Posted by SpringBokCock
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2003
3160 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 1:43 pm to
1) Saban [obvious #1].
2) Spurrier [took 3 moribund programs to new heights]
3) Petrino [no championships yet, but offensive genius and teams play hard with lesser talent].
4) Miles [he wins at LSU -- but his weaknesses were exposed in BCSCG]

5) Pinkel [big drop off here; may be ranked too high since never played in SEC, but did remarkable job building Missouri into a Big-12 contender].
6) Richt [solid, but so many questions about team discipline, offensive gameplanning, and toughness; can't get over the hump despite tremendous resources at UGA].
7) Chizik [Struck gold with Cam Newton for that one magic year; coaching defections and other weaknesses put Auburn in the middle of the pack]
8) Franklin [changed the culture at Vandy]
9) Mullen [almost changed the culture at State].
10) Sumlin [well, we think he'll be good - and the ones below have serious issues]

11) Muschamp [hasn't shown he is ready for primetime; but has a shot to fix it with another year recruiting players for his system]
12) Freeze [he's not Dooley and he's not Joker; Ole Miss is a horrible situation, so Freeze deserves credit for any games he wins].
13) Dooley [lost to a Kentucky team running 6 plays with a WR at QB . . . but at least they always beat Vandy]
14) Phillips [beat a bad Tennessee team by running 6 plays with a WR at QB . . . and it was better than their regular offense].
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26270 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 1:45 pm to
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And one of those losses was in 2007 when Alabama finished 7-6 and LSU finished 12-2.

How did Bama and LSU finish in 2008 again?
Posted by Marines4Auburn
Auburn Alum in South Florida
Member since Sep 2009
14926 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 1:53 pm to
How can Pinkel be ranked top 5 or above Spurrier and Chizik?

Saban is the best hands down.

Richt is better than Chizik.

Spurrier is an amazing coach, the third best in the SEC.

In my opinion no coach can be top 5 in SEC without a trip to Atlanta.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46526 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:16 pm to
1. Nick Saban
2. Bobby Petrino
3. Steve Spurrier
4. Mark Richt
5. Les Miles
6. James Franklin
7. Gene Chizik
8. Will Muschamp
9. Dan Mullen
10. Joker Phillips
11. Derek Dooley
12. Kevin Sumlin
13. Hugh Freeze
14. Gary Pinkel
Posted by West Central Tiger
Tiger Country
Member since Feb 2006
1154 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:17 pm to
If you were ranking the 14 SEC Football Coaching Staffs would the order stay the same? I suppose the assistants he hires is considered when ranking the coaches.

At any rate ---
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:24 pm to
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Because Sumlin is a better coach.


How is that? He inherited a team Art Briles built up. Dooley has had two rebuilding projects.
This post was edited on 2/19/12 at 2:27 pm
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:26 pm to
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Yeah Dooley is probably the worst coach in the SEC right now. He was certainly the least qualified HC of the bunch. All of the other coaches on the list at least had prior coordinator experience or won big at smaller programs before they were hired by their SEC schools. Dooley had neither. He never had to call plays or devise a gameplan in his life. At least Joker was a really good OC for Kentucky when he had Andre Woodson at QB. He has some skills as a coach. Dooley has none.


Jim Harbaugh and Urban Meyer were never coordinators.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:30 pm to
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Sumlin lost his starter and backup in the same quarter of football. That offense that year was still top 15 in the nation with the guy that was 4th string the day the injuries happened.

Sumlin is also a 2 time Bear Bryant Coach of the Year Finalist


Its the CUSA. I don't care what their offensive rankings were, they still finished 5-7. Going 5-7 while not having your 3 best players is a lot more impressive to me than going 5-7 in the CUSA. Dooley has had to start a true freshman at quarterback for the past two years.
Posted by Marines4Auburn
Auburn Alum in South Florida
Member since Sep 2009
14926 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

1. Nick Saban 2. Bobby Petrino 3. Steve Spurrier 4. Mark Richt 5. Les Miles 6. James Franklin 7. Gene Chizik 8. Will Muschamp 9. Dan Mullen 10. Joker Phillips 11. Derek Dooley 12. Kevin Sumlin 13. Hugh Freeze 14. Gary Pinkel


Wow, simply stunning analysis.

The second best coach in the conference has never won the SEC title. 4 coaches have won the NC.

James Franklin is ranked above the HC of Tenn, UF and Auburn.
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:40 pm to
Bob Petrino does as good a job as anybody in the conference when it comes to developing offensive talent. We’ll see if his defense can take that next step towards legitamcy now under a new coordinator, until that happens he is a gimmick
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Bob Petrino does as good a job as anybody in the conference when it comes to developing offensive talent. We’ll see if his defense can take that next step towards legitamcy now under a new coordinator, until that happens he is a gimmick


Petrino loads up on one aspect of the game and thats passing. They did really well lately at runningback too, but the oline and defense is average at best in the SEC. They will never be SEC champions recruiting that way because most teams are on the rise again.
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
Member since Feb 2010
22958 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:48 pm to
Saban and Miles are the best. Petrino is probably 3d best.

Dooley and Joker are the worst. Muschamp isn't far behind.

The rest are in the middle somewhere
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Saban and Miles are the best. Petrino is probably 3d best.

Dooley and Joker are the worst. Muschamp isn't far behind.

The rest are in the middle somewhere



Spurrier had complete control of the SEC with UF and he did something most thought was impossible which was turn USCe into SEC east champs. Ask how well that went for Lou Holtz. Spurrier is easily the second best behind Saban.
Posted by busey
First Coast, Florida
Member since Feb 2010
22958 posts
Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:51 pm to
In his day, he was probably just as good. He's past his prime now, though.
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