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Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:14 pm to LSUwag
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It is very common knowledge that UF opposes FSU coming into the SEC. This has been their stance for generations. I'm not linking you to jack shite.
Oh I get it, you say so so it must be true. :eye roll:
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:16 pm to sarc
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The belief is that Florida, Georgia, South Carlolina and possibly Kentucky and A&M would all vote against adding a team from an existing state (i.e. FSU, GT, Clemson, Louisville, Texas). They've agreed to vote as a block on this issue.
I would definitely vote for this if I was an A&M BoR, and same for OU. frick the Sooners.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:27 pm to GABlueDog
All UF would have to do to secure a "no" vote from A&M would be to say "vote no on FSU and we promise to vote no on Texas, should they ever come calling". Done. I imagine the same is true for USCe w/re: to Clemson. Done.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:35 pm to SEC. 593
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Assuming that would open up area to recruiting to Texas.
This whole "opening" such-and-such school up to Texas recruiting thing is largely a myth. I've tried to dispell it before, but I guess I have to do it again...
Look up how many D1 programs there are in Texas. Then add the programs that rely on Texas talent: OU & OSU, and then add LSU, which has a Houston pipeline.
After Texas, Texas A&M, and OU take the best recruits statewide and LSU poaches a top player or two from Houston, how much talent is really left? Once you've thought about that, consider that the talent that's left is then fought over by: Tech, OSU, Baylor, TCU, SMU, UH, Rice, UTEP PLUS teams that have traditionally elbowed in on the margins with those schools: Mizzou and Arkansas.
So where's the real opportunity for FSU there? It's a zero-sum game, so who is FSU, which doesn't have entrenched Texas HS contacts, going to muscle out for the Tech-OSU-Baylor-TCU-Arky-Mizzou level recruits? There's not as much opportunity for them in Texas as you think. They'll focus on recruiting Florida/Georgia/Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:53 pm to Cooter Davenport
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This whole "opening" such-and-such school up to Texas recruiting thing is largely a myth. I've tried to dispell it before, but I guess I have to do it again...
Look up how many D1 programs there are in Texas. Then add the programs that rely on Texas talent: OU & OSU, and then add LSU, which has a Houston pipeline.
After Texas, Texas A&M, and OU take the best recruits statewide and LSU poaches a top player or two from Houston, how much talent is really left? Once you've thought about that, consider that the talent that's left is then fought over by: Tech, OSU, Baylor, TCU, SMU, UH, Rice, UTEP PLUS teams that have traditionally elbowed in on the margins with those schools: Mizzou and Arkansas.
So where's the real opportunity for FSU there? It's a zero-sum game, so who is FSU, which doesn't have entrenched Texas HS contacts, going to muscle out for the Tech-OSU-Baylor-TCU-Arky-Mizzou level recruits? There's not as much opportunity for them in Texas as you think. They'll focus on recruiting Florida/Georgia/Alabama.
Agreed. Texas is a gold mine, but it's also largely mined out every year by the current prospectors. Florida was the next gold rush; now UCF, FAU, USF, FIU, etc have joined the FBS level, and have been sucking up all the players that Florida's Big 3 or UGA, Bama et al. haven't.
The next 'gold' rush will be Arizona, imo. Only 2 state programs, large population gains over the past 15 years.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 12:57 pm to Cooter Davenport
Ga Tech gets UGA fired up
Clemson gets USC fired up
Girls School gets UF fired up
so, for self preservation, we band together and all agree to shut them out...as we should. Only one of three schools has above avg academics and that school has small stadium and pizz poor athletic program....guess which school for a chance to win a million dollars or maybe not.
Clemson gets USC fired up
Girls School gets UF fired up
so, for self preservation, we band together and all agree to shut them out...as we should. Only one of three schools has above avg academics and that school has small stadium and pizz poor athletic program....guess which school for a chance to win a million dollars or maybe not.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:37 pm to Cooter Davenport
I was referring to opening up the Florida area to Texas, not the other way around.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 1:42 pm to srotaG adirolF
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You should ask yourself why LSU won't play FSU anymore
Ok, I may be having a brain fart, but why is this? (I honestly don't know, no flame intended.)
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:05 pm to austingator
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Who's recruiting got affected more when TAMU left the Big 12, Texas or Oklahoma?
without a doubt Texas
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:09 pm to tmc94
No way. Its OU. We have so many commits with OU offers, almost none with Texas offers.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 2:16 pm to cardboardboxer
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No way. Its OU. We have so many commits with OU offers, almost none with Texas offers.
you are thinking way too short term. In the Sherman era we won something like 9 of 13 head to heads vs OU. It was only the Fran era they beat us.OU moved to a national recruiting effort about 5 years ago and recruits far less in Texas. This coincided with Sherman's arrival and them losing recruits they were getting to us (Fuller, Moore, Joeckel, etc)
Also, the 2013 class isn't the impact. It's 2014. We're going to crush that class and LSU and Bama are going to pick up some as well. Texas is getting murdered right now on that class.
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