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re: Will we ever see a running back take over the game like they did in the past?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:00 pm to NATidefan
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:00 pm to NATidefan
quote:I could see it more so for Darren McFadden or Marcus Lattimore, but not Melvin Gordon III (mainly because Wisconsin running backs all find college success). I could see Marcus Lattimore's 30 for 30 being about his career derailment from stardom, and Darren McFadden's about being one of the all-time great SEC running backs.
For all of you throwing out McFadden, lattimore, and the Wisconsin dude.... do you think they'll be making 30 for 30's (or similar shows) about those guys 30 years after they played?
Look what PJ Hill, Montee Ball, Ron Dayne, James White and John Clay all did after having great college careers... Absolutely nothing. Montee Ball and James White are still presently in the NFL, but as a Denver Broncos fan, Montee Ball has shown no promise and is being outplayed by undrafted free agents and former busts.
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:01 pm to TTsTowel
I don't think Hershel should be mentioned in the same sentence with any back other than OJ.
It was my privilege to see Number 34 play close up--down on the field--and a back like him only comes along once in a lifetime.
He is the best I have ever seen in person in the toughest league in the nation.
I did not see OJ in person.
It was my privilege to see Number 34 play close up--down on the field--and a back like him only comes along once in a lifetime.
He is the best I have ever seen in person in the toughest league in the nation.
I did not see OJ in person.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:04 pm to TTsTowel
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Alabama running backs played in a "system" that helped them succeed in college...because, honestly, Trent Richardon, Mark Ingram and Glen Coffee
Coffee and Richardson, fine.
But Ingram? He's been pretty good the past two years. Took a little while but he is coming into his own just fine.
Sorry if a successful NFL career is a bust for you.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:06 pm to NATidefan
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For all of you throwing out McFadden, lattimore, and the Wisconsin dude.... do you think they'll be making 30 for 30's (or similar shows) about those guys 30 years after they played?
They only made Marcus Dupree 30 for 30 because of his off the field issues. His sleazy preacher/agent, his selfishly leaving OU etc.. It makes a good story. Melvin Gordon's season this year is 10x better than anything Dupree did in college from a pure football perspective.
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And it's not takeover "a" game it's "the" game like the game of football.
LOL if you think Marcus Dupree did anything close to taking over "the" game of football.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:10 pm to TTsTowel
Well 30 for 30 might have been a bad example, cause they tend to have something to do with off the field stuff or derailments as well
I just wonder if we will see that freak running back that comes along that is the same size as the average NCAA offensive lineman and runs as fast or faster than some of the fastest players in the league.
You know someone around 6'3 280 that runs a 4.2 or better, cause that's the way these guys compared to the defenses they played against in the 80's.
I just wonder if we will see that freak running back that comes along that is the same size as the average NCAA offensive lineman and runs as fast or faster than some of the fastest players in the league.
You know someone around 6'3 280 that runs a 4.2 or better, cause that's the way these guys compared to the defenses they played against in the 80's.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:16 pm to Kcoyote
quote:Wait, let's not stretch the truth here, bro. He's been pretty damn good this year, in 2014, but he was abysmal in every other year. He had three good games in 2013, one of which was against arguably the worst defense in NFL history (Dallas Cowboys). I don't count that as a good season... Not even close.
But Ingram? He's been pretty good the past two years. Took a little while but he is coming into his own just fine.
quote:You can't be serious here.
Sorry if a successful NFL career is a bust for you.
So far, in his career, he's averaging 123.5 attempts per season, 520 yards per season and 4.25 touchdowns per season.
That is not a successful NFL career, and if it is, Carnell Williams and Ronnie Brown had successful NFL careers (they didn't, IMO).
We may have a different definition...
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:18 pm to NATidefan
Marcus Lattimore says hi.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:18 pm to The_Joker
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Reggie Bush did it. Darren Mcfadden did it. Melvin Gordon is doing it.
I think we forget how Reggie Bush was a GOAT too. And Adrian Peterson
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:19 pm to NATidefan
:2015-2016:
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:20 pm to NATidefan
Florida/Georgia this year.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:30 pm to thirdlawson
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I think we forget how Reggie Bush was a GOAT too. And Adrian Peterson
Bush was. Peterson was not. Peterson never even won the Doak.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:02 pm to NATidefan
1981 Herschel- 385 carries 1891 yards 18 TDs
1984 Bo- 278 carries 1786 yards 17 TDs
2014 Melvin- 223 carries 1909 yards 23 TDs
Fewer carries that both Bo and Herschel in their Heisman winning seasons. If MG doesn't win the Heisman this year, it's worthless and whoever get it should be ashamed, denounce their reign and personally hand it to MG with sincere apologies.
For all you old guys nostalgic about Hershcel and Bo: That's great and all, but if you can't admit that MG is having the single most prolific season of any running back before him, TAKING over games, and completely embarrassing any defensive line and linebackers put in front of him, you are by definition delusional, and any further discussion otherwise really isn't worth having.
for SEC relevance: in one half, this guy had twice as many rushing yards on one more carry as Yeldon did in a full game vs LSU.
1984 Bo- 278 carries 1786 yards 17 TDs
2014 Melvin- 223 carries 1909 yards 23 TDs
Fewer carries that both Bo and Herschel in their Heisman winning seasons. If MG doesn't win the Heisman this year, it's worthless and whoever get it should be ashamed, denounce their reign and personally hand it to MG with sincere apologies.
For all you old guys nostalgic about Hershcel and Bo: That's great and all, but if you can't admit that MG is having the single most prolific season of any running back before him, TAKING over games, and completely embarrassing any defensive line and linebackers put in front of him, you are by definition delusional, and any further discussion otherwise really isn't worth having.
for SEC relevance: in one half, this guy had twice as many rushing yards on one more carry as Yeldon did in a full game vs LSU.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:06 pm to Masterag
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For all you old guys nostalgic about Hershcel and Bo:
Old? I was too young to remember Bo or Herschel play in college.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:11 pm to NATidefan
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Old? I was too young to remember Bo or Herschel play in college.
ok. then disregard that part. there are still some old heads on here talking about how nobody can match herschel or bo.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:14 pm to GatorReb
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I think the game goes in cycles. Defenses were bulking up to stop pro style offenses and a stud RB. Then the speed of the spread game started running circles around them. I think you will see defenses start slimming down a little to be more speedy then the offense will head back to the power back and you will see them take over the game again.
100%. You see this right now with defenses adapting to play better in space. Eventually when defenses trend toward 225lb linebackers and smaller defensive linemen, the situation will be ripe for giant O-lines and bruising HBs to take the game back over.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:50 pm to The_Joker
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Bush was. Peterson was not. Peterson never even won the Doak.
Peterson ran for almost 2000 yards AS A FRESHMAN. He just got injured the next 2 seasons, but he was a BEAST.
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