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re: Will we ever see a running back take over the game like they did in the past?

Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:40 am to
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:40 am to
These dudes look like Tiger Woods. How many majors they got?

Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:48 am to
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The game has evolved to where you just don't see a body like that move like that anymore.


I think it's more that defensive players are stronger/faster as well and you don't have the physical mismatches that you used to see.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:48 am to
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Will there every be another Bo Jackson, Marcus Dupree, Herschel Walker, Barry Sanders, etc?



Depends. Seems like a lot of rules are taking the hard hits out of the game.
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:50 am to
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Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram


Are you Larry's brother?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:53 am to
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Not saying Chubb is going to be the next Herschel but he looks pretty similar to me...



Yeah..but my main point was more about the other players on the field more so than the individual RBs. Linebackers and hell most DL back then were Herschel's size, and he was faster than any RB/WR/CB on the field. Even if Chubb has a similar frame, he isn't physically the man amongst boys these days that those other RBs were.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16317 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:55 am to
Reggie Bush did it. Darren Mcfadden did it. Melvin Gordon is doing it.
Posted by Noplacelikehome
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:03 am to
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I think we've had a few, but I think Herschel Walker set the new standard and nobody has really surpassed him .... and until somebody clearly does .... he remains the standard.


Barry Sanders set the standard after Walker. Sanders clearly passed Walker and had the greatest college season of all time.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:05 am to
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Barry Sanders set the standard after Walker.




For a season, yes. Nobody will ever touch barry's 88 season, it's almost unthinkable for someone to even come close.


But when you talk overall player? Career..body of work? Don't be silly. If Barry was the GOAT he wouldn't have rode the bench for so long. Herschel is the greatest and there really isn't much debate.
Posted by Noplacelikehome
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:13 am to
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For a season, yes. Nobody will ever touch barry's 88 season, it's almost unthinkable for someone to even come close.


But when you talk overall player? Career..body of work? Don't be silly. If Barry was the GOAT he wouldn't have rode the bench for so long. Herschel is the greatest and there really isn't much debate.


So, because prior to his Junior year Sanders was playing behind an upperclassman who was a 2 time All-American and a future NFL Hall of Famer he isn't the greatest? What is the topic about? Seeing a running back take over a game(s). It isn't like Sanders did it for one game.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:13 am to
I would argue that I have seen Nick Chubb take over at least 4 games this season.
Posted by Recruitingjunkie
Member since Jan 2014
3059 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:35 am to
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Bo Jackson was the GOAT.


No. Herschel walker > Bo

Dupree > everyone.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91645 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:39 am to
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Reggie Bush did it. Darren Mcfadden did it. Melvin Gordon is doing it.
Yeah, and Tre Mason did it in 2013.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:39 am to
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Mark Ingram was truly the last elite running back of our time.
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:44 am to
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Yeah, and Tre Mason did it in 2013.

#nb4bammerssay"systemplayer"
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91645 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:46 am to
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#nb4bammerssay"systemplayer"
Wait for it...

Forget that he just went for 113 yards against the NFL's best run defense, my Denver Broncos.
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:49 am to
Don't forget he played in a HS gimmick offense.
Posted by CocknDawg
Near Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
1274 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:50 am to
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I think the game goes in cycles. Defenses were bulking up to stop pro style offenses and a stud RB. Then the speed of the spread game started running circles around them. I think you will see defenses start slimming down a little to be more speedy then the offense will head back to the power back and you will see them take over the game again.


On the money, except more speed will always be the goal for linebackers and d-backs.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:51 am to
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Yeah..but my main point was more about the other players on the field more so than the individual RBs. Linebackers and hell most DL back then were Herschel's size, and he was faster than any RB/WR/CB on the field.


FWIW... in 1980 Notre Dame had a once in a decade "D". They were considered huge for the day...

LE...6'4" 245lb
LT...6'4" 246lb
RT...6'4" 251lb
RE...6'5" 245lb
OLB..6'2" 218lb
MLB..6'3" 222lb
OLB..6'2" 208lb

Herschel was 6'1" 225lb as a freshman...
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36035 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:52 am to
For all of you throwing out McFadden, lattimore, and the Wisconsin dude.... do you think they'll be making 30 for 30's (or similar shows) about those guys 30 years after they played?


And it's not takeover "a" game it's "the" game like the game of football.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 11:56 am
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91645 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:53 am to
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Don't forget he played in a HS gimmick offense.
Let's keep in mind that one could easily argue that Alabama running backs played in a "system" that helped them succeed in college...because, honestly, Trent Richardon, Mark Ingram and Glen Coffee are or were busts in the NFL. Eddie Lacy is the only one that has amounted to anything thus far.
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