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re: Will Mississippi State win a conference basketball game?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:49 am to GatorsGators
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:49 am to GatorsGators
We'll beat Ole Miss at home, but lose every other game. It's all but guaranteed 
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:55 am to GatorsGators
Also, funny all these OM people saying Ray will keep his job just because he beats OM. Thats no accomplishment for MSU basketball, and the fact that he has only split with y'all the past two years shows how shitty of a job he has done.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:56 am to MSUbulldogs03
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Also, funny all these OM people saying Ray will keep his job just because he beats OM
They're trying to rustle your jimmies. And it's working.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 2:21 am to pivey14
They looked like crap tonight.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:09 am to NotRight37
Why was Stanbury (so) let go?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 3:17 am to ehidal1
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They will beat Arkansas at the Hump
How drunk are you?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 5:05 am to elksnort
Screw Rick Stansbury. Most agree he was let go a few years too late.
Stans left us with a flaming piss pile of a program. But hiring Ray was a mistake, we should have thrown money at a more established coach.
Stans left us with a flaming piss pile of a program. But hiring Ray was a mistake, we should have thrown money at a more established coach.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:59 am to TaxmanMSU
Stans stayed 3-5 years too long. When I was at MSU I only attended a few basketball games. It was just not for me. My friends loved it and went to almost every game. But Ray needs to go and I see us beating Ole Miss and some other SEC team we should not beat.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:13 am to Henry Jones Jr
quote:State will not beat Ole Miss in Starkville. Yes, I know we've had a difficult time winning in the Hump, but this is one of the worst SEC teams of the past two decades. I'm willing to impose a perma-ban on myself if State wins that game. Since I'm not a "veteran poster" like yourself, you can just hang it up until the first of August.
Almost as certain as the sun coming up tomorrow. It's unreal how hard it is for us to win there.
This bet goes for anyone, but in particular HJJ. I'm tired of your shtick and want to ruin your next couple of months. This is obviously the only interaction you have with other people.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 5:30 pm to TaxmanMSU
It seems like Stansbury won games.
Just curious why he was let go. I never knew the story.
Just curious why he was let go. I never knew the story.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 5:34 pm to jb4
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They will beat Kentucky and solve two issues?
Throw away Walter White's number.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 5:42 pm to elksnort
Just go to a any State message board and search for Stansbury.
You will be able to take you pick of threads on the subject.
Heck, there will probably be one or two threads on the front page today and he has been gone for years.
You will be able to take you pick of threads on the subject.
Heck, there will probably be one or two threads on the front page today and he has been gone for years.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 6:06 pm to NotRight37
No offense to State fans,but this team is awful.You need to be coach shopping ASAP.
I don't doubt Ray knows the game,but he doesn't seem to be able to motivate the players or have the ability to correct what makes them this bad.
I don't doubt Ray knows the game,but he doesn't seem to be able to motivate the players or have the ability to correct what makes them this bad.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:57 am to More Cowbell 1963
Without my having to do this can you give me the nutshell story?
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:19 am to elksnort
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Just curious why he was let go. I never knew the story.
Here's my version of the events.
Stansbury was a hellava recruiter. In basketball, sometimes talent is good enough to overcome an average floor coach, which Stansbury was.
Stansbury was Richard Williams' top assistant when we made the Sweet 16/Final 4 runs of 95-96. Richard Williams got a pom squad girl pregnant or something and resigned after a mediocre 97 season. Stansbury was popular and took over in 98.
He had us in the NIT in 99, and in 2001 we started becoming a year in, year out NCAA team. When the Baylor program got left in ruins when one of their players murdered another, we landed their All-American, Lawrence Roberts. In 2004, we had a 26-2 regular season, won the SEC outright and landed a No. 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament.
That year upset a lot of fans. We lost to Xavier in the second round. The year before, we had lost to a 12 seed Butler as a 5 seed in Birmingham. In the NCAA Tournament, it seemed that Stansbury's average floor coaching caught up to him, when in reality, Butler and Xavier were much better teams (as they would show in the subsequent years).
A couple more times in the decade, Stansbury won the SEC Tournament out of nowhere. We had great NCAA games against top seeds Duke and Memphis, but could not pull out the upset. Fans were genuinely happy, but despite all the success, we couldn't make a Sweet 16.
The downfall of Stansbury came with Renaldo Sidney. He was a Mississippi boy that moved to LA his senior year of high school. After some weird recruiting issues with Southern Cal, he landed at Mississippi State (had to sit out a year).
The first year that Sidney played, we got out to a great start, was ranked in the top 10 for a time, but chemistry wasn't there. You could tell. Pure talent was winning games, but down the SEC stretch, we lost six in a row to teams that we should have beaten bu double digits. We found ourselves on the wrong side of the bubble and made the NIT - losing to North Carolina in the Hump.
In my opinion, the Sidney deal was dirty. I have no proof of this. It is only my opinion. The fact that he would literally not play defense, he was out of shape, etc., and still he was rewarded with playing time indicates to me that he had so much on us that he could not be benched or disciplined.
We played in a tournament in Hawaii, and he got in a fight with a teammate in the stands over some nachos. Video evidence shows that Sidney instigated the fight, but the other player was kicked off the team. Sidney had a minor suspension over the issue. Again, I feel like he had so much on us that we could not properly discipline him.
Stansbury's contract was up at the end of that season. The athletic director wanted to clean up the program. Stansbury wanted to fish. I honestly believe he would have stayed retired, but he lost millions in a lake development project gone bad, so he returned to the sidelines as an assistant at A&M.
ETA: He could recruit with the best of them, but couldn't always keep them. Five of Stansbury's prized recruits finished their careers at other powerhouse programs.
Robert Jackson left MSU and led Marquette to the Big East title and the Final Four (in a year where we were a #3 seed in the tournament)
Ben Hansbrough was a freshman sensation at MSU, and ended his career as Big East Player of the Year at Notre Dame
Reginald Delk left MSU and starred on a Rick Pitino Louisville squad.
Romero Osby was all-Big 12 and led Oklahoma in scoring.
Rodney Hood left MSU and became an All-ACC performer at Duke.
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:24 am to anc
quote:You finely posted something relatively accurate.
anc
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:34 am to GatorsGators
Im almost sure they will beat ole miss in oxford
Posted on 1/9/15 at 1:20 pm to circlerebel17
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Im almost sure they will beat ole miss in oxford
Not a chance. MSU is awful. When you don't recruit the AAU circuit (as rumored that Ray refuses to do), then you end up with Division III talent. 0-18 is really tough to do because the SEC is down and all, but State has a legitimate chance to not win a conference game.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 1:38 pm to anc
Maybe we can beat Auburn at home??
Posted on 1/9/15 at 2:01 pm to Diamondawg
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Maybe we can beat Auburn at home??
They'll probably end up winning a couple just because the SEC as a whole is so poor, but I doubt they can win a road game anywhere. They couldn't beat USC Upstate in Jackson, MS.
Like I said, 0-18 in this league is as difficult as 18-0 in a good league.
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