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re: Will Bama look it's way towards Dabo when Saban leaves?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:17 am to Sid E Walker
Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:17 am to Sid E Walker
To be fair.... whoever ends up being the guy post-Saban is not likely to duplicate the kind of success the program has had and will be under tremendous pressure.
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:44 am to dead money
Now that's going out on a limb. 
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 8:34 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 7:49 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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Jimbo wouldn't make a lateral move to Tuscaloosa
you're a fricking idiot.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:32 am to geauxnavybeatbama
The smartest move Bama could make post-Saban is to make Smart the HC. He has been the DC for a Def that has been top10 since arriving, which most account for Bamas success. He is apparently a good recruiter and knows the program well. Bringing anyone else in is asking for problems. Bama and fans would feel more comfortable with someone they know. IMHO...
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:02 am to dead money
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To be fair.... whoever ends up being the guy post-Saban is not likely to duplicate the kind of success the program has had and will be under tremendous pressure.
Which is why a lot of people think Smart taking over is the easiest/safest move that Bama can make. Give Smart 3 years to see if he can sustain what Saban has built, and if it is proven that he can't after 3 years, then go after an established coach. That way an established coach won't worry as much about Saban's shadow since they would be following Smart instead.
Another name to consider about filling in the gap immediately after Saban is Jim McElwain. He has don't pretty well at Colorado St. If he can continue building there, he might warrant some consideration.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 9:25 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:23 am to GridironLeatherhead
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Will Bama look it's way towards Dabo when Saban leaves?
If Gene Stallings is still alive when Saban retires (I think we can stop with the "leaves" comments at this point) then Dabo will at minimum be mentioned in connection with the job. Coach Stallings likes Dabo a lot and still has some influence in Tuscaloosa.
I don't think Dabo gets the job, but his name will be mentioned enough to get him a big raise wherever he is - still likely at Clemson, where he's done a very good job.
The job is likely Kirby's. He's thought so for about 3 years now and, unless something odd happens, I think he's right.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:26 am to bamasgot13
I dont think Dabo is out of the questoin at all.
Bama Alum, HC coaching experience at the highest level, pulls strong recruiting classes, puts players in the NFL, wins meaningless BCS Bowls.
It would be a better hire that the three prior to Saban.
Bama Alum, HC coaching experience at the highest level, pulls strong recruiting classes, puts players in the NFL, wins meaningless BCS Bowls.
It would be a better hire that the three prior to Saban.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:35 am to parkjas2001
quote:While that may be true - Bama won't have to scrape around the bottom of the coaching barrel now like they had to do prior to Saban. The days of Dubose-Fran-PawPaw-Shula are long gone.
I dont think Dabo is out of the questoin at all.
Bama Alum, HC coaching experience at the highest level, pulls strong recruiting classes, puts players in the NFL, wins meaningless BCS Bowls.
It would be a better hire that the three prior to Saban.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:38 am to RT1941
Wonder what kind of coin IPTAY could scrounge up if they got in a bidding war.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:40 am to parkjas2001
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It would be a better hire that the three prior to Saban.
That's not saying much.
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I dont think Dabo is out of the questoin at all.
I don't think anyone who is being realistic about it would say it is out of the question. I think that a lot of Bama fans are a little apprehensive about him as an option because of that fact he is a Bama alumnus and would probably demand a pretty big buyout due to being at a top flight program already (both of which would make it harder to let him go if he can't get the job done).
While he has won at Clemson, there is still some question as to what he will be able to do without Chad Morris as his OC. His teams have always been offense heavy, with lacking defenses. So there is a concern that Morris might be a bigger contributing factor to Clemson's success than Dabo since he runs the offense. Now if Morris leaves in the next couple of year, and Dabo proves he can sustain their success without him, then I think he his chances will dramatically increase.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:52 am to parkjas2001
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I dont think Dabo is out of the questoin at all.
I agree. And he would be considered by the vast majority of objective, non-trolling non-Bama fans as a good hire. Most Bama fans would consider it a good hire. I just dont think the odds are that it happens.
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It would be a better hire that the three prior to Saban.
To be fair, Shula was hired in May after PawPaw Price was let go for being a world class moron. You weren't going to get anyone great in May so they went with safe.
Price was, I believe, a multiple time conference champion who had produced two top 5 QBs in the NFL draft and was considered a great offensive coach...he was just morally inept.
Franchione was considered an up and coming coach at the time. Turns out his reputation was primarily due to a great D-coordinator in Patterson and an incredible RB in Tomlinson.
Side note on Fran: I knew he was a true P.O.S. in 2002 BEFORE the Iron Bowl. I know Evan Mathis who was on that team and he told me on that Wednesday night before the game that they'd not seen Fran at practice all week. At that point it was obvious he was gone.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:04 am to bamasgot13
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Side note on Fran: I knew he was a true P.O.S. in 2002 BEFORE the Iron Bowl. I know Evan Mathis who was on that team and he told me on that Wednesday night before the game that they'd not seen Fran at practice all week. At that point it was obvious he was gone.
Explains why a 3rd string RB ran all over Bama that day and AU won.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:15 am to parkjas2001
I am absolutely terrified of what comes next after Saban....with the exception of Stallings, Bama lurched from one bad choice after another after Bryant retired. Instead of Stallings originally, we hired Ray Perkins....instead of Bobby Bowden, we get Bill Curry....i just hope we don't nake the same mistakes again.
Saban, like Bryant, has unquestioned authority. When he leaves, I am worried you will see the same old competeing interests come out of the woodwork.
Saban, like Bryant, has unquestioned authority. When he leaves, I am worried you will see the same old competeing interests come out of the woodwork.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:18 am to Coach Bobby Williams
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More like Kirby Smart or Jim Harbaugh maybe even Jim Mora jr.
I do not think the money people want Kirby, Harbaugh will never go back to the College game and Mora doesn't know the South. I think it will be Jimbo (last of the Saban disciples) or a mid to lower Pro Coach.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:28 am to ErnestTBassmaster
No to Dantonio? After Harbaugh that is the best dream candidate for Alabama.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:33 am to 14&Counting
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I am absolutely terrified of what comes next after Saban....with the exception of Stallings, Bama lurched from one bad choice after another after Bryant retired.
We had really poor leadership at the AD position for much of that time (same people that could have had Bobby Bowden but, instead, went with Bill Curry). Mal Moore was very questionable at all things not fund raising related until he swung for the fences with the Saban hire.
Battle is different than all those before him in that the guy makes business decisions - not "good ole boy" decisions. He likely wouldn't respond to a (at the time) fax in campaign to get DuBose the job. He would tell that group to get bent b/c he's hiring the best candidate for the job.
I feel better equipped to transition to the new coach in a few years under Battle's leadership than at points in recent past.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:36 am to Coach Bobby Williams
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Coach Bobby Williams
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:41 am to bamasgot13
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We had really poor leadership at the AD position for much of that time (same people that could have had Bobby Bowden but, instead, went with Bill Curry). Mal Moore was very questionable at all things not fund raising related until he swung for the fences with the Saban hire.
Battle is different than all those before him in that the guy makes business decisions - not "good ole boy" decisions. He likely wouldn't respond to a (at the time) fax in campaign to get DuBose the job. He would tell that group to get bent b/c he's hiring the best candidate for the job.
I feel better equipped to transition to the new coach in a few years under Battle's leadership than at points in recent pa
I think Saban pulls a Mack Brown. He will veto anyone who doesn't fit his philosophy about football. He doesn't want some outsider to step in and diminish his legacy by being successful with a different philosophy. That is where it will be interesting to see who controls the next selection process.
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