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Will Alabama and Saban change his defense for the Air Raid and MSU?
Posted on 10/29/20 at 7:57 am
Posted on 10/29/20 at 7:57 am
LSU stuck to their base D and man coverage and got burnt repetedly vs Mississippi State earlier this season and the last 3 weeks Arkansas, Kentucky, and A&M have all decided to rush 3 and drop 8 into Zone coverage.
This isn't something Saban and his defense has done, will he make the change this Saturday or not? I dont think it makes a difference what defense he plays personally. Just curious if he changes his entire game plan for the Air Raid or not
This isn't something Saban and his defense has done, will he make the change this Saturday or not? I dont think it makes a difference what defense he plays personally. Just curious if he changes his entire game plan for the Air Raid or not
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Posted on 10/29/20 at 7:59 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Saban on Mike Leach's Air Raid offense: "It's very effective and certainly something different than what you see week in and week out. I think you have to play differently against it."
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This isn't something Saban and his defense has done, will he make the change this Saturday or not?
And this is just false. Do you think Alabama is running the same base 3-4 defense it was running in 2009? The defense has had to adjust over the years. During a season as well with the myriad of offenses you can face.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 8:12 am
Posted on 10/29/20 at 7:59 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Of course he will. It’ll be even uglier than the other games because their front 3 will eat your OL alive. Prayers sent.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 8:00 am
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:03 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Not going to do anything. Don't have to it's Mississippi State. We're Alabama. Roller Up Tide
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:07 am to TheCheshireHog
I know Saban has faced the air raid at least once before. In 2000 at LSU versus Hal Mumme and Kentucky. LSU won 34-0. I have looked for clips of what they were running defensively, but not much luck finding anything.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:11 am to CapstoneGrad06
Bamas corners should be able to cover State's WRs because they aren't very good to begin with.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:16 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Alabama’s corners have played at an elite level. Even when the rest of the defense hasn’t.
The question in this game isn’t whether Alabama will use what others have done to shut down the air raid. They absolutely will. The real question is whether Alabama can consistently play fundamentally sound. And if Golding can make adjustments. Those have both been issues.
The question in this game isn’t whether Alabama will use what others have done to shut down the air raid. They absolutely will. The real question is whether Alabama can consistently play fundamentally sound. And if Golding can make adjustments. Those have both been issues.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:30 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
I fully expect us to get gashed on Saturday. I hope I'm wrong but we will see.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:36 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Yeah, it seems running zone keeps everything in front of the defense, so I would expect to see some form of it on Saturday. (Saban stated earlier in the week that they would be looking at this game differently.)
Saban has a "Fire Zone," which is one-high coverage where the corners play aggressive man on the outside, while still allowing for a moderate rush inside.
I believe everyone has done some form of this against the air raid thus far, aside from Bo Pelini. He did have the unfortunate circumstance of facing them right out of the gate, though.
Saban has a "Fire Zone," which is one-high coverage where the corners play aggressive man on the outside, while still allowing for a moderate rush inside.
I believe everyone has done some form of this against the air raid thus far, aside from Bo Pelini. He did have the unfortunate circumstance of facing them right out of the gate, though.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:52 am to CapstoneGrad06
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In 2000 at LSU versus Hal Mumme and Kentucky. LSU won 34-0.
I'm looking at the game summary for that game. Kentucky actually out-gained LSU in total yardage 397-339 and moved the ball fairly well but choked hard every time they got into LSU territory. Kentucky also had miserable field position all game. 9 out of their 12 drives started inside their own 25 yard line. Here's Kentucky's drive summaries for the game.
1st Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 28 yard line on a 12 play, 55 yard drive and missed a field goal.
3rd Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 23 yard line on a 11 play, 64 yard drive and turned the ball over on downs.
4th Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 38 yard line on a 12 play, 60 yard drive and turned the ball over on downs.
8th Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 31 yard line on a 7 play, 46 yard drive and turned the ball over on downs.
11th Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 24 yard line on a 10 play, 56 yard drive and turned the ball over on downs.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:54 am to paperwasp
Arkansas showed the SEC how to stop Leach's O. Aggressive zone. Keep the ball in front of you. Simple as that. 6 picks including 2 for pick 6's.
I think Odem figured it out pretty easily.
I think Odem figured it out pretty easily.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 8:59 am to TheTideMustRoll
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TheTideMustRoll
I fully expect us to get gashed on Saturday. I hope I'm wrong but we will see.
I think you are correct in that certain offenses can exploit certain defensive traits, youth and experience, substitution timings and readiness, etc etc. There has been most certainly been a handful of teams over the last few years who have been successful against Bama by using these techniques (Clemson!).
Years ago, I heard a coaching quote that said (maybe it was Bobby Bowden?) that the team that puts the most talent on the field wins 75% of the games based on that alone. There has in fact been games when Bama was able to grind out wins based on sheer talent. However, Saban actually does a pretty good job with halftime adjustments - in particular, reference this years Georgia game. Even last years loss to LSU showed remarkable improvement in the second half. The rest is up to coaching, momentum, home field advantage, whatever.
This year, I think you can add in the fact that our offense is absolutely humming along - so to me, it's not so much about what we are going to do to stop them - I think we'll be OK. Rather, what are they going to do to stop US?
You never say 100% on anything these days in college football, but I think Bama will be in good shape this weekend. When I think of dangerous games on our schedule this year, MSU just doesn't feel like one of those games to me. We'll see on Saturday.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:05 am to Bench McElroy
I remember being thrilled with a shutout after the how the ‘99 season went.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:08 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
I don't man... can our slow, big, fat linebackers even keep up with y'all? 
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:15 am to NorCalHog
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think Odem figured it out pretty easily.
Yeah. He looked at the blueprint that Chris Peterson constructed at Washington. Leach’s offense never scored more that 17 points against Washington in 6 matchups.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 9:17 am
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:16 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Do you think Alabama is running the same base 3-4 defense it was running in 2009?
As much as we loved Terrence Cody in 2008 and 2009, I'm not sure there would be a place for him in today's game. And that's too bad.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:24 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Hasn't MSU lost a bunch of players to the transfer portal?
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:26 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
I took Bama -33 the second it hit the plate. I don't see us putting up more than 7 points. Bama will put up 45 with ease. The only way we cover is if Bama puts in backups in the second half, which I believe is what Vegas is thinking. Then again, their backups are still better than our 1s.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:37 am to Bench McElroy
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1st Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 28 yard line on a 12 play, 55 yard drive and missed a field goal.
3rd Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 23 yard line on a 11 play, 64 yard drive and turned the ball over on downs.
4th Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 38 yard line on a 12 play, 60 yard drive and turned the ball over on downs.
8th Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 31 yard line on a 7 play, 46 yard drive and turned the ball over on downs.
11th Drive- Kentucky drove to the LSU 24 yard line on a 10 play, 56 yard drive and turned the ball over on downs.
You also have to remember this was Saban's first year at LSU, a team that went 3-8 the year prior and was only 3-3 heading into that game. Holding a Jared Lorenzen air raid offense to under 400 yards and no points under those circumstances is pretty damn good.
Looking deeper into the game. Kentucky had 280 passing yards on 55 attempts. They actually ran a shite load more than Leach has in any game this year. Kentucky going 1 of 6 on 4th down didn't help them either.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:38 am to BamaGradinTn
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As much as we loved Terrence Cody in 2008 and 2009, I'm not sure there would be a place for him in today's game. And that's too bad.
IDK, we found a place for Tyler Shelvin last year, and I think he and Cody are pretty comparable as to what they bring to the table.
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