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Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:12 am to VermilionTiger
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They have a better football program and basketball program than A&M, so I'm sure they will be fine.
What does that have to do with academics?
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:17 am to finestfirst79
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Actually you can:
*3.1.4 Termination of Membership. Membership may be terminated voluntarily by the resignation of a member or involuntarily at a meeting of the Chief Executive Officers. A vote of at least two-thirds of the members is required to terminate membership. Any motion to terminate membership shall specify the effective date of the proposed termination.
...but I don't know why anybody would even consider this with respect to Vanderbilt.
If it was that easy it would have happened somewhere by now.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:25 am to VermilionTiger
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They have a better football program and basketball program than A&M
Their best ever finish in football was 7th.
Their best season in their entire history was a 2-loss season.
Their basketball team, which we beat by 19, is a 5-seed. We are a 3-seed.
They have fewer NCAA tournament appearances and wins than we do.
They haven't won a conference regular season title since 1950
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:28 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I understand what you tried to do, but your argument falls apart when you include the Big 12.
The Big 12 lost a majority of its fine academic institutions (A&M, CU, Mizzou, and Nebraska prior to 2011). I believe the only AAU schools left are Texas, KU, and ISU.
The Big 12 lost a majority of its fine academic institutions (A&M, CU, Mizzou, and Nebraska prior to 2011). I believe the only AAU schools left are Texas, KU, and ISU.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:34 am to Chill98
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I understand what you tried to do, but your argument falls apart when you include the Big 12.
Why does my argument fall apart?
Baylor's conversations between Bill Powers and Ken Starr, during the realignment mess, are protected from the FOIA because Baylor is a private school.
An enterprising individual did a FOIA request on Texas Tech and it was granted. Don't remember the reason, but it was during 2010.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:38 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Private Universities are not required to disclose certain information and correspondence to and from them is shielded from the Freedom of Information Act.
ACC: Duke, Miami, Wake Forest
Big Ten: Northwestern
Big XII: Baylor, TCU
PAC 12: Stanford, USC
SEC: Vanderbilt
Only two schools on that list are mediocre academic schools as well.
In closing, Vanderbilt is not being kicked out of the SEC unless they are replaced by Rice or Tulane.
I'd take SMU before Rice. Houston is already SEC Country. Dallas could use another front.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:48 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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but this business about privacy is hokum.
No it's not. Remember when Baylor tried to sue every school in the SEC if they let A&M in?
They then tried to obtain correspondence between the university presidents and were shut down because Vanderbilt's president was a part of those conversations. Their FOIA requests (multiple) were denied on the basis that private universities are EXEMPT from FOIA
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:49 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Vandy, unlike A&M, is a charter member. They will never be kicked out. There are four schools that can be though
Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:49 am to VermilionTiger
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They have a better football program and basketball program than A&M, so I'm sure they will be fine.
Same can be said for Baylor relative to LSU
Posted on 3/15/16 at 12:54 pm to MaroonNation
Those four schools each have more conference titles across their history than both Mississippi schools combined.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:08 pm to thefloydian
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If it was that easy it would have happened somewhere by now.
But why? To me, the only reasons for kicking somebody out would be if a school dropped, for example, football, or if they were repeat NCAA offenders to the point they received the death penalty more than once.
In any case the same rules apply to inviting new members as kicking somebody out: at least 2/3 of the members vote "Yes".
But after re-reading the OP several times I'm still not sure what argument he's trying to make.
ETA: I get it now, I think. He's saying that if we kicked out Vandy (which will never happen, but go with it) that they would only be replaced by another private school because FOIA requests involving the entire conference won't work.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:27 pm to finestfirst79
Not sure who to troll here, so
Go to hell USC.
Go to hell USC.
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