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re: Why is Nick Saban Much More Successful At Bama

Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:06 pm to
Simple - they own the SEC office.

One penalty.

No need to say more.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:07 pm to
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Believe it or not, he is actually more relaxed than he use to be.

I think a lot of that has to do with fanbases, which influence local call-in, luncheons, media events, etc. He was, and never would be, tolerant with the Psycho part of our fanbase. Coach Miles could care less what they think.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33939 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:08 pm to
He's a better coach now than he was back then and it's easier to win at Bama than it is to win at LSU. I mean, LSU had three winning seasons from 1989-1999. They hadn't been to a New Year's Day bowl game since the mid '80s. It takes time to instill a winning culture in a program that was down for so long.
Posted by SECFan413
Cookeville,TN
Member since Jan 2009
966 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:08 pm to
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He's a much better coach now. Not to mention his timing on everything he has done at Alabama is unreal. Not trying to take away from him being the best coach in college football, but he damn sure it lucky too.


I'm not sure I understand this.

He has had to deal with the best Florida teams, perhaps ever. The best LSU teams, perhaps ever. Auburn recruiting at its highest level, perhaps ever - all while rebuilding Bama's image as a national team.

I am probably misunderstanding what you are trying to say, so maybe you could explain it better.
Posted by jddawg58
Saban Nation
Member since Oct 2011
2157 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:12 pm to
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Why is Nick Saban Much More Successful At Bama


than he was at LSU?


Let's see if he can win without Barrett Jones. You do realize that Saban was 7-6 without Jones in 2007, he redshirted in 2008 and has started since.

The question should be, can Saban win without Jones.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:12 pm to
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He has had to deal with the best Florida teams, perhaps ever. The best LSU teams, perhaps ever. Auburn recruiting at its highest level, perhaps ever

CLM also (exchange UA for LSU). Hopefully he'll get due credit from his own at some point.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33939 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:12 pm to
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Nick Saban was already a name brand when he came to Bama. He was a nobody when he went to LSU. A big reason why he had the #1 recruiting class in his first season at Bama.


Actually the state of Alabama had an insane crop of in-state talent that year (Mark Barron, Julio Jones, Marcel Dareus, Courtney Upshaw, Robert Lester) and Tuberville had basically stopped recruiting by then. It was a perfect storm for instant success.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:13 pm to
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The question should be, can Saban win without Jones.


You serial?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:14 pm to
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jddawg58

quote:

et's see if he can win without Barrett Jones. You do realize that Saban was 7-6 without Jones in 2007, he redshirted in 2008 and has started since. The question should be, can Saban win without Jones.

That was pretty good.
Posted by Dr Lecter
Baltimore, MD
Member since Oct 2012
1263 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:15 pm to
B/C it's the Bama factor. Any coach should be better at Bama than anywhere else that is more inferior.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:16 pm to
Reppin your segment of the fanbase well, keep posting.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:20 pm to
Fail
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:20 pm to
You might not believe it but he has mellowed out since he arrived. You don't see it at the games but outside the stadium he is much more loose. When he arrived he was a wound up mess. After he won his first NC something changed with him.
Posted by ztucke2
Fort Worth
Member since Oct 2010
2125 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:21 pm to
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Let's see if he can win without Barrett Jones. You do realize that Saban was 7-6 without Jones in 2007, he redshirted in 2008 and has started since.

The question should be, can Saban win without Jones.


Finally someone recognized the key to Saban's success.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:29 pm to
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Reppin your segment of the fanbase well, keep posting.

Hell, even Dubose and Shula had a ten win season at UA.
Posted by JDM1992
In your head
Member since Dec 2011
15141 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:32 pm to
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 8:41 pm
Posted by lwlsu96
Member since Oct 2011
5404 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:32 pm to
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I'm not sure I understand this. He has had to deal with the best Florida teams, perhaps ever. The best LSU teams, perhaps ever. Auburn recruiting at its highest level, perhaps ever - all while rebuilding Bama's image as a national team. I am probably misunderstanding what you are trying to say, so maybe you could explain it better.


Well winning the national title last year was mainly luck if you think about it. You really had no business playing us again, regardless of opinion. But Nick came up in the clutch and won. Not in his control. Also, he has had the easiest OOC schedule and has played all of the tough eastern division opponents at the perfect time. But again, none of this is in Nick Saban's control, nor does it have to do with how good of a coach he is. But Les had similar luck in 07, but it came around to bite him in the arse. Nick's karma can only get here sooner
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:36 pm to
He also grossly mismanaged the first half of the 2009 championship game, but benefitted from McCoy getting hurt. I don't know if Bama wins that game with McCoy playing.
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 7:37 pm
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:41 pm to
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Does he win the title in 2009 if McCoy doesn't get hurt?


It never ends.
Posted by FANATIC
Member since Sep 2007
797 posts
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:47 pm to
Bama gives more money to players if you know what I mean
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