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re: Why is Mississippi State mostly left out of Cam Newton discussions?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:50 am to WhitewaterDawg
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:50 am to WhitewaterDawg
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ALL-IN AU
No one but Auburn fans believe your fans ridiculous accounts of Cam's recruitment and purchase.
Funny thing is, I don't even think they really believe it... No one is that stupid...
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:51 am to Dday63
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Read your own link, moron. What we "know for a fact" is that one MSU booster was throwing money at a recruit, and one assistant coach knew about it. When the Athletic Department found out about it, they fired the coach, disassociated the booster, and turned themselves in to the NCAA. That hardly sounds like a "system in place" to funnel money to recruits.
People have to be sacrificed when the system gets exposed.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:51 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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So it is true MSU pays players and rolls people when caught. Gotcha
Yes, and that's why the NCAA gave MSU a wrist slap and accepted their self-imposed sanctions.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:52 am to Dday63
Of course they had intentions of negotiating. Why else would coaches meet with Rogers and Cecil in a hotel?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:53 am to Dday63
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Yes, and that's why the NCAA gave MSU a wrist slap and accepted their self-imposed sanctions.
Wrist slap…see Bama and T-town Menswear for a wrist slap.
Loosing schollies in todays NCAA is like the death penalty in the 1980's. MSU dirty. We all know it. We have facts to prove it.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:55 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Why some state fans maintain their facade of not cheating is beyond me.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:56 am to DMagic
It is quite comical really. I mean they discard the sanctions of paying a player as a wrist slap and follow it up with we didn't offer Cam anything... 
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:02 am to Rabern57
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All that was proven was that state's people offered money to his dad
Cecil admitted to asking for money = FACT
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The fact they made a rule so that someone else can't try to get money off you and you still play shows they know state and his dad were talking money.
this rule actually more clearly defines Cecil as an "agent" and would have rendered Cam ineligible, which had nothing to do with MSU.
Under NCAA Bylaw 12, the rule now states that:
" ... an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents or attempts to represent an individual for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation for financial gain ..." = FACT
The only thing proven in this ENTIRE mess is that Cecil asked for money.
Did MSU try to negotiate? maybe
Did AU pay? maybe
Did Cam know? maybe
Anyone who can speak definitively either way about the three above questions is just speculating.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:11 am to ibontherun
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The only thing proven in this ENTIRE mess is that Cecil asked for money.
And MSU boosters tried to get him paid
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:14 am to NYCAuburn
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MSU boosters
Kenny Rogers was NOT and won't ever be an MSU booster.
John Bond is a booster, but that's the guy who is quoted in countless articles as turning it in (which is why he is still a booster)
Nice try though.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:14 am to ibontherun
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Kenny Rogers was NOT and won't ever be an MSU booster.
Umm he was defined so by the NCAA and MSU, so yes he was.
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Nice try though
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:19 am to NYCAuburn
The facts:
1) No evidence of any payment by Auburn (and no sensible person thinks Auburn paid 180k for Cam). Whether some rogue person did something untoward is unknown, but there is no evidence of it.
2) Confirmed that Cecil asked MSU booster/pseudo-booster for money.
3) Confirmed that MSU people "looked into" doing a deal.
4) Confirmed no deal was done.
5) No evidence of money to Cecil's church.
6) No evidence that Cam knew about any of it.
1) No evidence of any payment by Auburn (and no sensible person thinks Auburn paid 180k for Cam). Whether some rogue person did something untoward is unknown, but there is no evidence of it.
2) Confirmed that Cecil asked MSU booster/pseudo-booster for money.
3) Confirmed that MSU people "looked into" doing a deal.
4) Confirmed no deal was done.
5) No evidence of money to Cecil's church.
6) No evidence that Cam knew about any of it.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:21 am to ibontherun
NCAA bylaw 13.02.14:
A “representative of the institution's athletics interests” is an individual, independent agency, corporate entity (e.g., apparel or equipment manufacturer) or other organization who is known (or who should have been known) by a member of the institution's executive or athletics administration to:
(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution's intercollegiate athletics program;
A “representative of the institution's athletics interests” is an individual, independent agency, corporate entity (e.g., apparel or equipment manufacturer) or other organization who is known (or who should have been known) by a member of the institution's executive or athletics administration to:
(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution's intercollegiate athletics program;
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:26 am to Pettifogger
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5) No evidence of money to Cecil's church.
Actually there was evidence Cecils church got 40k, but there was a direct donor who even was on record in a government meeting as giving the 40k. Cam's brother who also plays in the NFL
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:30 am to ibontherun
quote:Yet Will Redmond was given about 3 thousand dollars and offered about 6 thousand dollars more by Moo State boosters and he is still allowed to play for their football team
this rule actually more clearly defines Cecil as an "agent" and would have rendered Cam ineligible, which had nothing to do with MSU.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:37 am to DMagic
It's not cheating if the Mustang is used.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:49 am to Pettifogger
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3) Confirmed that MSU people "looked into" doing a deal.
Worth posting again.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:51 am to auburnphan23
He sat out a year. He is as eligible as Any other player
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:53 am to NYCAuburn
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5) No evidence of money to Cecil's church.
Actually there was evidence Cecils church got 40k, but there was a direct donor who even was on record in a government meeting as giving the 40k. Cam's brother who also plays in the NFL
Cam's brother was on the practice squad. He wasn't making shite but said he would pay the $5,000-$7000 per month fines till the repIrs were made if they wouldn't shut the church down.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:55 am to GreyReb
SO JELLY... 
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