re: Why is Mississippi State mostly left out of Cam Newton discussions?

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But State recruited him for six weeks after a payment of six digits was asked from them by one of their former players. I have never understood how State didn't get more scrutiny about this.

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Why would we quit recruiting him over the solicitation of money from a "representative" of his?

It makes perfect sense. Unless you think your boss should automatically fire you for asking for a raise -- instead of letting you keep working at your current salary.

The amount of ignorant disconnect from Auburn fans over the Cam situation is humorous to behold.

But State recruited him for six weeks after a payment of six digits was asked from them by one of their former players.

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I have never understood how State didn't get more scrutiny about this.

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You should probably just stick to why is water wet or the sky blue. You would look a lot more intellectual if it is actually possible.

Because Kenny Rogers did not represent State, was not associated with the Bulldog Club nor did he have anything to do with the university until he thought he could possibly broker a deal with the university. He knew State was recruiting kNewton and he contacted his dad and his dad wanted money for his son's signature. He said he would act as the go between for a cut of the money. When kNewton took his official visit to State Cecil and sCam arranged to talk to Mullen after the game that sCam attended. They met at the Hilton Garden Inn in Starkville and at this point Rogers arrived and Cecil informed Mullen that his son's signature would not be free this time. Mullen said he does not buy players and that was the end of the meeting. The school was found to have done nothing wrong. They gladly accepted the recommendation to bar Rogers from any future interactions with the athletic department since he never had anything to do with State to begin with.

And our AD said that we turned this over to the SEC before sCam signed with Auburn. At the time the plan was to sit him for one year as his eligibility would have been in question. The one year would have cleared him for play and he would have led the 2011 squad.

What would be interesting is how kNewton's dad's church got that massive influx of donations after sCam signed with Auburn. Iirc, the city had condemned the church as it was such danger to enter and couldn't meet fire codes. Then all of the sudden the parishioners raised several hundred thousand bucks to renovate it.

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Why would we quit recruiting him over the solicitation of money from a "representative" of his?

It makes perfect sense. Unless you think your boss should automatically fire you for asking for a raise -- instead of letting you keep working at your current salary.

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So you think the similarity of getting paid for a job, and asking for a raise, and the solicitation of money for play, which is an NCAA no-no, is comparable?

ETA There was a reason Auburn stopped recruiting Lache Seatrunk, cold turkey, three weeks before NSD.

Cecil was asking for money. Where do you think Rogers got the asking price, dumbass? Now, ask yourself how Cam got to Auburn, given that there was in fact an asking price.

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Our booster didn't offer money. Cecil and Kenny told him it was gonna cost 180K to get Cam to sign with MSU. Cam really liked MSU and wanted to go to MSU so they were offering us a 20k discount for his services over the offer they had given other schools. Our booster told John Bond about it and John Bond went to the MSU powers that be and that's that. Cecil is a lying sob of a preacherman that pimped his son out. Congrats to Auburn for being the winning bidder. It was worth every penny.

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This. How all the facts get construed as MSU boosters offering money is beyond me. Auburn fans think that, but there is not one goddam link they can provide to back up that narrative. Everything documented tells the story as quoted above.

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How all the facts get construed as MSU boosters offering money is beyond me.

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I have never seen one Auburn fan say that boosters offered money. I have seen many Auburn fans state that a former State player asked for money for Cam to come there.

from USAToday article

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What do we know? The NCAA has been investigating a claim that Kenny Rogers, purportedly acting on behalf of Cam Newton, offered him to Mississippi State for $180,000. Rogers claimed to former MSU quarterback John Bond he had offers for $200,000 from other schools. Bond forwarded the info to the MSU athletic department. The Bulldogs declined the offer. Cam Newton’s father chose Auburn. The NCAA requested Cam Newton’s father Cecil’s financial records and those of his church. Rogers is under a separate investigation by the NFLPA for serving as a runner and posing as an NFLPA employee. Cecil Newton and his church received a suspicious influx of funds. Newton chose Auburn last December. Cecil Newton’s church, which had been facing a demolition order for building code violations, began renovations a short time later. Cecil told the city council in September 2009 the renovations would be carried out “within six months.” However, notably, he also claimed the church had “money in hand to proceed with the work.”

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So you think the similarity of getting paid for a job, and asking for a raise, and the solicitation of money for play, which is an NCAA no-no, is comparable?

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It's amazing that only Auburn fans fail to see the correlation. The amount of downright stupidity and outright lies on what is on the record of having happened involving Cam is always hilarious to behold.

Solicitation of money is only a problem if you get the money -- and State never played ball with Cecil. It's beyond stupid to try to say that State lost a bidding war that WE turned into the NCAA.

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ETA There was a reason Auburn stopped recruiting Lache Seatrunk, cold turkey, three weeks before NSD.

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SUREEEE, if you say so....