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re: Why is everyone so excited about this Avery Johnson hire?

Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:11 am to
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:11 am to
Ok kaptain. We get it. Your not that excited about Avery Johnson.

Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:11 am to
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So does bama now have two of the shortest male coaches in College athletics?


Oh look, the silver lining for losers.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:11 am to
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Then he also has to develop relationships with camp circuits, coaches, shoe company's and AAU circuits. It's a greedy mess, and he's all new to it.


This, SO MUCH this.

Basketball recruiting is dirty. Dirtier than football ever thought about being. And it takes those relationships with the dirty folks to get it done.

And as to your next post about the Nutt recommendation from saban... Spot on. That shite was hilarious.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24870 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:12 am to
I agree it's a risky hire because he hasn't coached college basketball before. Has a decent level of bust potential. However, one of the main reasons why it is nevertheless an appealing and exciting hire for a lot of people is actually contained in your post:

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at a place like Alabama where football is king and you need someone to really push basketball to the masses


I think the above Avery Johnson can and will do. He is a well-known person in the basketball world, is a big personality, is very comfortable in front of the camera and appears like someone who wants to be in the limelight.

Alabama basketball needs a PR makeover after the Grant years where he basically disappeared from public view except for the couple of hours a week he was on the sidelines during the season. Johnson will be able to push the brand. That COULD lead to more interest from fans and, importantly, recruits.

None of us know enough about his actual coaching ability to really judge that, but he certainly wasn't terrible in the NBA so there is some hope that he knows how to coach a basketball team.

But no doubt the excitement comes from the feeling he will be someone who can and will promote Bama basketball to the fans and recruits both of which are desperately needed. If he can hold his own developing players and coaching X's and O's than it could actually be just the hire Alabama needed at this point.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:16 am
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:13 am to
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Huhh???.....we went out and offerd to make Marshall a top 5 coach as far as compensation as well as all the support he wanted...and in case you haven't been following, there are a dearth of candidates right now...and the ones like Marshall have their eyes on the established programs that will likely have openings in the next few years. Frankly, we are lucky to get AJ.



yet he wouldnt pay the buyout last year to get rid of Grant. His hand was FORCED this year. THAT is the only reason he offered so much to try to get Marshall. He had no choice.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:14 am to
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List me the current "great" SEC basketball coaches


I can name 3

Cal, Donovan, and Pearl. ALL 3 championship caliber coaches. Know a little about your sport before you open your mouth. This aint football.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:14 am to
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Donovan is a great coach as well.


I did overlook Donovan. I and most everybody else would consider him great. So that makes two out of 14 considered great. Like I said he doesn't have to be great to have the type success Bama fans would appreciate. So those of you saying he isn't a great coach are probably right, but neither is the guy coaching your team.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:14 am to
It's certainlh an Interesting hire. I go back and forth on it being a good or bad hire. I think his NBA success or failure of irrelevant in determining how good or bad of a coCh he'll be in college.

He does bring legitimacy to the position in the eyes of kids wanting to get to the NBA, so that's a good thing when it comes to recruiting. He seems like a personable person, which is also good in recruiting, as well as being the face of the program.

The unknown is how he'll do as a college coach. There's just nothing on his resume to gauge, and as a Bama fan that is a little unsettling.
Posted by chadau79
Daphne, AL
Member since Sep 2009
3412 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:15 am to
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Why is everyone so excited about this Avery Johnson hire


Why wouldn't we be?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:16 am to
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List me the current "great" SEC basketball coaches. If your being honest there is just one. To me "great" means universally thought of as a championship caliber coach and outside coach Cal nobody in the SEC has that. He doesn't have to be great to be successful at Bama. No one at Bama expects multiple final fours. We just want a competitive team that is fun to watch that consistently makes the tournament. Bama had that under Wimp and no one is going to call Wimp a "great" coach.




That's fair.

But Gregg Marshall is a GREAT coach, so I guess this just seems very lackluster in comparison.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85790 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:17 am to
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Oh look, the silver lining for losers.


Make that 3 shortest coaches. Gaspard is only 5'9
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105399 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:18 am to
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ThaKaptin


Auburn troll?
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:18 am to
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I did overlook Donovan.


as well as Bruce Pearl.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85790 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:18 am to
Do you still do your tailgate?
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:19 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:19 am to
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He does bring legitimacy to the position in the eyes of kids wanting to get to the NBA



Kids in next year's recruiting class were 10 years old when he was fired from the Maverick's.

Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24112 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:20 am to
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Posted by memphisplaya
So does bama now have two of the shortest male coaches in College athletics?


Nick and Avery are so short, they have to stand on their rings to take a driver's license photo.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:21 am to
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Cal, Donovan, and Pearl. ALL 3 championship caliber coaches.


I give you Cal and Donovan, but Pearl is laughable. He is a good coach, but outside of one SEC regular season championship what else has he won besides one Division 2 title.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70893 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:22 am to
Pearl is very good. Not great, but his time was cut short due to the sanctions. I don't think he'll end up being great if he stays at AU though. JMO.

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Like I said he doesn't have to be great to have the type success Bama fans would appreciate.


it sounds like most of yall are just looking for improvement in general. Which is reasonable. I'm sure LSU 2014 type success would suffice. Not great, but good enough to keep you interested.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:22 am to
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Why wouldn't we be?
. If yall are this excited about Avery. Grant must have made you cum.


Bruce will have a all time losing record against Grant. Lifetime.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:25 am
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85790 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:22 am to
Yeah no kidding. Pearl's and TN's biggest achievement is an elite 8.
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