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re: Why is Alabama suddenly so concerned about protecting a rivalry?
Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:45 pm to therick711
Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:45 pm to therick711
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That's what you would like to believe. Auburn was in favor of it, no doubt. But Bama had to keep playing Vandy too. Nothing wrong with that, but don't act like Bama had nothing to do with it. The historical record shows that to simply not be the case.
Maybe. Look I understand the desire to have 2 rotating games, but it is a bit disingenuous to not even pretend to understand that losing a game like Auburn-Georgia or Alabama-Tennessee is a pretty big f'in deal. If it happens it happens, but it just makes people dig in more when the reaction is "that's dumb who gives a crap about that game".
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:46 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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My point is that I would like to see LSU play Tennessee (and UGA) more, but we can't due to Alabama.
There are 14 teams in the SEC. Alabama is one vote. Feel free to propose scheduling changes....again.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:46 pm to 3rddownonthe8
yep hey we will be a supper confrance in basketball
Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:47 pm to StopRobot
doesn't it take , 11 to pass a measure... UA-UGA-AU-UT aren't voting for ending their rivalries
Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:48 pm to StopRobot
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There are 14 teams in the SEC. Alabama is one vote. Feel free to propose scheduling changes....again.
Give Ole Miss Florida every year and give Mississippi State Missouri and I bet they would vote to end the permanent rivalry nonsense. The issue is the shitty schools got each other and every win matters to them for bowls. Of course they won't vote against it.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:50 pm to therick711
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Give Ole Miss Florida every year and give Mississippi State Missouri and I bet they would vote to end the permanent rivalry nonsense. The issue is the shitty schools got each other and every win matters to them for bowls. Of course they won't vote against it.
Not what he said. He said "due to Alabama"
Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:52 pm to StopRobot
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Not what he said. He said "due to Alabama"
That is the issue. That is why it isn't going away. it isn't because everyone loves the TSIO game. It is because the shitty schools were bought off. Vandy gets to try and beat Ole Miss every year.
Nothing better. They should call that rivalry "The JP Sports/Lincoln Financial Bowl"Posted on 1/28/15 at 3:55 pm to StopRobot
quote:THIS x 100000
There are 14 teams in the SEC. Alabama is one vote. Feel free to propose scheduling changes....again.
Take these scheduling changes to a fricking vote this summer at the conference meetings in Destin and lets see what happens.
It doesn't matte one bit what the fans want, folks that want a change need to petition their AD's and voice your opinion.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:00 pm to RT1941
Fact is, TSIO built this conference. You didnt hear Bama fans whining about playing us when we beat them 10/12 times from '95 to '06, and you don't hear UT fans whining about playing them now. If f you don't like it, 
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:05 pm to VFL1800FPD
Tenn claim to fame now is getting whipped by Bama every year. Let them have their moment
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:07 pm to rootisback
We've beaten Bama more times than anyone else
And I see that Bama at one point had a 9 game streak over Aubie, and you've lost 5 of the last 7.
And I see that Bama at one point had a 9 game streak over Aubie, and you've lost 5 of the last 7.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:10 pm to RT1941
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Take these scheduling changes to a fricking vote this summer at the conference meetings in Destin and lets see what happens.
It doesn't matte one bit what the fans want, folks that want a change need to petition their AD's and voice your opinion
and while you are at it, the 13 non-Bama schools are welcome to vote to change the entire SEC staff, all the officials and move the offices out of Birmingham.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:12 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Aubie, and you've lost 5 of the last 7.
Bro, we all know the only acceptable timeframes are post-Bear and the year the streak started to now.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:16 pm to StopRobot
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Take these scheduling changes to a fricking vote this summer at the conference meetings in Destin and lets see what happens. It doesn't matte one bit what the fans want, folks that want a change need to petition their AD's and voice your opinion
quote:A revolution of sorts!!! Let's turn this whole damn conference upside down and see if it changes a damn thing when we get on the football field.
and while you are at it, the 13 non-Bama schools are welcome to vote to change the entire SEC staff, all the officials and move the offices out of Birmingham.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:35 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Fact is, TSIO built this conference.
No it didn't.
Fact is, Tennessee has an overinflated opinion of themselves.
Teams that won an SEC title before Tennessee:
Alabama, Tulane, LSU.
SEC teams that played in the Rose Bowl before Tennessee:
Alabama, Georgia Tech, Tulane.
SEC teams that have NCAA-recognized national titles before Tennessee:
Alabama, LSU, (Georgia Tech, A&M)
SEC teams with winning/tied records with Tennessee by 1949:
Alabama, Vandy, Georgia, Georgia Tech.
SEC teams with bigger stadiums than Tennessee prior to 1970:
LSU, (Tulane, Georgia Tech*).
Fact is that Alabama, Georgia Tech, and even Vandy had more to do with building this conference than Tennessee.
*In 1966 Georgia Tech expanded their stadium capacity to 58,121. In 1967 Tennessee expanded Neyland to 58,122.
Tiger Stadium was at 67,510 in 1967, while Tulane Stadium was at 80,985 for comparison)Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:58 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Fact is, Tennessee has an overinflated opinion of themselves.
Who doesn't?
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Tennessee's obsession with Alabama dates to the Neyland era. Until Neyland arrived in Knoxville, Alabama dominated Southern football. Once Neyland took over in 1927, Alabama and Tennessee took turns at the top for the next 25 years.
"You never can really tell about a football player," Neyland used to say, "until after he's played against Alabama."
"That was the game," Ray Graves, captain of the 1941 Volunteers and longtime Florida coach, said Thursday. "Alabama was the game General Neyland really pushed for. He believed that's the game you got to win if you want to be champions. He just made it that important."
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Long before Steve Spurrier’s decade of dominance at Florida or Nick Saban’s current reign as king of the Southeastern Conference, Bryant and Neyland carved their reputations and the league’s by building championship teams and contenders. Trace the roots of the Alabama-Tennessee rivalry, which resumes today, and you will find them planted in soil tilled by the two coaching legends.
“I suppose you could say that Neyland helped shape the old SEC, ‘Bear’ the new SEC,” said Dan Jenkins, historian at the College Football Hall of Fame. “They both became larger than life. I can’t think who else you’d rank with them.”
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It was a 15-13 upset in that 1928 meeting that put Tennessee on the college football map, and marked Neyland as a coach on the rise.
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:08 pm to Cockopotamus
We are the conference, secede immediately - I support.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:10 pm to VFL1800FPD
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that 1928 meeting that put Tennessee on the college football map
lulz
1928?
Y'all were late to the map.
No one's saying Neyland wasn't a great coach, but to say it was Alabama and Tennessee that built the SEC is a joke.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:17 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Alabam was the undisputed king of Southern College football, and the only one with any respect outside of the South.
After Neyland's arrival, Tennessee began to pull even with them and they started duking it out for championships, showing the rest of the country that Southern teams weren't to be underestimated anymore.
Neyland and Bear's tactics and Innovations (Neyland was the first anywhere to use game films for evaluation, lightweight tear-away jerseys, low-top shoes and lightweight hip pads to enhance speed. He also came up with a canvas tarp to protect the field) were adopted by the rest of the Nation when they were found to be successful.
Alabama and Tenn may not have built the SEC, but we put it on the college football map.
After Neyland's arrival, Tennessee began to pull even with them and they started duking it out for championships, showing the rest of the country that Southern teams weren't to be underestimated anymore.
Neyland and Bear's tactics and Innovations (Neyland was the first anywhere to use game films for evaluation, lightweight tear-away jerseys, low-top shoes and lightweight hip pads to enhance speed. He also came up with a canvas tarp to protect the field) were adopted by the rest of the Nation when they were found to be successful.
Alabama and Tenn may not have built the SEC, but we put it on the college football map.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 6:34 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Alabam was the undisputed king of Southern College football
I'm not disputing that.
Let me rephrase:
"To say Alabama and Tennessee built the SEC is a joke."
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...and the only one with any respect outside of the South.
I would say that Georgia Tech was already in the nation's consciousness by the time the SEC was formed. Some guy named John something...
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After Neyland's arrival, Tennessee began to pull even with them and they started duking it out for championships
National Championships 1924-1964:
Notre Dame 8
Minnesota 6
Alabama 5
tOSU 4
USC 3
Tennessee 2
G-Tech 2
SEC Championships 1933-1964:
Alabama 7
Tennessee 6
Mississippi 6
G-Tech 5
LSU 4
UGA 4
Tulane 3
Tennessee wasn't really duking it out alone with Alabama, they just joined the fray already in progress. You're really selling G-Tech short here. But for supposedly being some kind of football god, Neyland really didn't outperform Georgia Tech, nor really John Vaught for that matter. Didn't he have a losing record vs both?
At least Vaught can point to 20 year period with the best win% nationally. Can Neyland say that?
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Alabama may not have built the SEC, but they put it on the college football map.
I'd buy that.
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