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re: Why does the Playoff Committee hate Alabama?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:54 am to MrLarson
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:54 am to MrLarson
As for TCU, why exactly are they so much more impressive than Alabama?
TCU Wins (FPI)
#58 Minnesota
#8 Oklahoma
#45 Okie State
#71 Texas Tech
and a loss to #12 Baylor
I think they did a good job. You can make arguments for some teams but there is clear logic on the top 10.
TCU Wins (FPI)
#58 Minnesota
#8 Oklahoma
#45 Okie State
#71 Texas Tech
and a loss to #12 Baylor
I think they did a good job. You can make arguments for some teams but there is clear logic on the top 10.
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:54 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Unless somehow MSU loses to Arky, Bama and Ole Miss, LSU loses to Arky, Bama and A&M and Auburn loses to Ole Miss, UGA and us and all those wins become meh.
Even that won't matter. The committee has already spoken on Notre Dame and the Big 10, and the consensus is that they are all hot garbage. Look at where Nebraska and Ohio State are ranked, then tell me where you can find any significant quality wins left on Sparty's schedule. There aren't any.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:55 am to Mizzou to my Lou
Alabama only has one quality win (WVU). The only other good team they played, they lost to (Ole Miss).
Their other wins are against FAU, Southern Miss, Florida, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Tennessee. None of those are good teams.
Their other wins are against FAU, Southern Miss, Florida, Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Tennessee. None of those are good teams.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:55 am to SummerOfGeorge
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MSU beat #15 at home, Alabama beat #20 at a neutral site. MSU lost to #5 on the road by 3 touchdowns, Alabama lost to #4 on the road by 6 with a chance to win the game at the end.
Alabama has wins over (FPI rank)
#27 WVU
#29 Florida
#21 Arkanas
#16 Texas A&M
#33 Tennessee
Michigan State has wins over (FPI rank)
#24 Nebraska
#83 Purdue
#74 Indiana
#51 Michigan
I'm not trying to be a dick about this, but those rankings are just a joke. A&M is not a top 20 team, they have been blown out 3 weeks in a row. UF is a complete dumpster fire. Tennessee is 2 years away from being top 25
Michigan, like UF, complete dumpster fire. Indiana, 3-4 Indiana, beat Mizzou at Mizzou, but agreed they suck.
I don't understand FPI I guess. And ESPN's explanation doesn't have a formula anywhere. I mean the FPI has OU as the top Big 12 team, 15 spots ahead of a team who beat them at their house.
I don't understand!!
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:57 am to SummerOfGeorge
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TCU Wins (FPI)
#58 Minnesota
#8 Oklahoma
#45 Okie State
#71 Texas Tech
and a loss to #12 Baylor
You're doing it wrong. Ranking at the time means nothing. Time to get with today, pal.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:57 am to Buckeye06
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I'm not trying to be a dick about this, but those rankings are just a joke. A&M is not a top 20 team, they have been blown out 3 weeks in a row. UF is a complete dumpster fire. Tennessee is 2 years away from being top 25
Michigan, like UF, complete dumpster fire. Indiana, 3-4 Indiana, beat Mizzou at Mizzou, but agreed they suck.
I don't understand FPI I guess. And ESPN's explanation doesn't have a formula anywhere. I mean the FPI has OU as the top Big 12 team, 15 spots ahead of a team who beat them at their house.
I don't understand!!
I could use F+, ESPN FPI, Sagarin, whatever system you want that ranks teams based on their performance it would give you a very similar ranking. Those "bad" SEC teams are night and day better than the mid level - bad Big Ten teams that MSU has beaten.
Well explain to me why Nebraska is a good team then? And the rest of those teams Michigan State beat are putrid. And their loss at Oregon was by 19 points.
Alabama is right about where they should be.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 9:00 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:57 am to TxTiger82
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You're doing it wrong. Ranking at the time means nothing. Time to get with today, pal.
You realize those are as of this minute ESPN FPI rankings, right?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:59 am to BamaGradinTn
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Look at where Nebraska and Ohio State are ranked, then tell me where you can find any significant quality wins left on Sparty's schedule.
But Nebraska is ranked 5 spots higher than West Virginia, so there goes your logic.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:00 am to SummerOfGeorge
I think it's a good base to start with. Obviously I am West biased.
But all the teams in the west control their own outcome at this point. It's never been this way before. I like it alot.
But all the teams in the west control their own outcome at this point. It's never been this way before. I like it alot.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:01 am to TxTiger82
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quality wins left on Sparty's schedule.
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But Nebraska is ranked 5 spots higher than West Virginia, so there goes your logic.
You are having problems reading. Alabama has 3-4 quality win opportunities left on our schedule. That is the point.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I could use F+, ESPN FPI, Sagarin, whatever system you want that ranks teams based on their performance it would give you a very similar ranking. Those "bad" SEC teams are night and day better than the mid level - bad Big Ten teams that MSU has beaten.
Tell me why.
I guess what i have an issue with is this. Where did UF get this ranking from. They have wins over eastern Mich. Kentucky in triple OT, and Tennessee by 1. Why is Tennessee getting respect in these polls? I mean Indiana may well beat UF this year (they already beat Mizzou who clocked UF). Tennesee has wins over Chattanooga, Utah St. and Arky St., yet they count as a top 35 win?
I think Alabama beats MSU on a neutral field, but when I look at their resumes, just because UF and Tennesee have historically been good doesn't mean they are better than dog crap this year
Maybe I need to take a crash course in how Sagarin etc work, because there is no poll in the country that should have OU ahead of Kansas State right now, by any measure or poll
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 9:06 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:06 am to Buckeye06
They aren't human polls, they are advanced stats much like SABR in baseball that rank teams on offense, defense, special teams, etc based on performance. There are 4-5 that are all independent of eachother and all come up with the same results.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:08 am to Mizzou to my Lou
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Mizzou to my Lou
Why does the Playoff Committee hate Alabama?
Because they want to be in the "IN" crowd like everybody else on the planet ???????
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 9:09 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:08 am to Mizzou to my Lou
Bama fatigue
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:10 am to SummerOfGeorge
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They aren't human polls, they are advanced stats much like SABR in baseball that rank teams on offense, defense, special teams, etc based on performance. There are 4-5 that are all independent of eachother and all come up with the same results.
Absolutely agree, but how can any of them have OU ranked ahead of KSU today? OU has more losses, and lost at home to KSU. Doesn't that say the computer has a virus?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:13 am to Buckeye06
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Absolutely agree, but how can any of them have OU ranked ahead of KSU today? OU has more losses, and lost at home to KSU. Doesn't that say the computer has a virus?
Haha I agree there are some head scratchers and Oklahoma is the #1 culprit. They clearly cracked the code much like the Missouri Valley used to with the RPI in basketball.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:18 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Haha I agree there are some head scratchers and Oklahoma is the #1 culprit. They clearly cracked the code much like the Missouri Valley used to with the RPI in basketball.
That's my issue. I mean UF and Tennessee are counted as top 50 wins...wtf. They aren't good. I mean really. I don't know if Indiana and Purdue give them games, but I'm probably taking Maryland to beat them both this year....I can't even believe as I type that that I believe it.
And this is not me advocating for OSU in any way, or the B1G. I just scratch my head when I see Bama ranked #1 on FPI and Sagarin when they have a loss to someone else already, and 2 teams are undefeated. I have an issue with that
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:18 am to TxTiger82
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TxTiger82
Why does the Playoff Committee hate Alabama?
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Look at where Nebraska and Ohio State are ranked, then tell me where you can find any significant quality wins left on Sparty's schedule.
But Nebraska is ranked 5 spots higher than West Virginia, so there goes your logic.
Seriously? Try to keep up, OK? If Alabama wins out, they'll have wins over MSU, Auburn, and maybe also Georgia. Michigan State will not have the opportunity to have even one win on it's schedule that impressive.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:33 am to Weagle25
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Your resume actually means something now.
And if Bama (AU or Ole Miss, too, for that matter) wins out then they'll have the most impressive resume in the country and the rankings on 10/29 won't matter. If Bama (AU or Ole Miss, too, for that matter) loses a game, then they'll be out of the playoffs and simply playing for pride.
It will all work itself by 12/7.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:34 am to Mizzou to my Lou
bamas position looks good to me.
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