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Why does Saban have so much trouble stopping legit, dynamic DT QBs?

Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:36 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:36 am
I was watching last night and kept thinking back to JFF and Cordale Jones and was pissed that we still can't stop guys like this. Its not like these guys are supermen. What is funny is that legit fans of the SEC know that Chavis' LSU defense would have wrecked shop on Watson just like they did Manziel. What does Chavis do so differently that snuffs those type of guys out?
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:37 am to
It's not just Saban. It always gets me when people say that.

Everyone has trouble stopping legit, dynamic QBs.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29820 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:38 am to
Everyone has trouble stopping them. Thats why they are playing!!!
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:38 am to
Kirby's defense is beautiful against certain teams, and frustrating versus others. Hopefully with Bama's talent Pruitt can evolve it in a way to shut down these teams.
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:38 am to
Because dynamic players are good. And considering his record at Bama is something stupid like 100-18 I think his better at stopping the opposing team's quarterback than anyone else.
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3226 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:38 am to
Because he still refuses to play straight up man coverage. He prefers creating the perfect package to defend with. Ask LSU.

Also, give credit to Deshaun. Our coverage on most of their TDs was as good as could be expected, the passes were just better.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8181 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:38 am to
Because it is really hard to stop elite talent that can do the kinds of things these kids can do. Everyone struggles with it. Bama fans just think it strange that it applies to them to.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Everyone has trouble stopping legit, dynamic QBs.



LSU didn't with chavis. that is the truth.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9446 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:39 am to
Most QBs who play well against Saban later on play in the NFL.
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3176 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:39 am to
uhh bama plays predominantly "straight up man coverage."
Posted by Kamikaze25
Columbia
Member since Jul 2015
1199 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:39 am to
Well, JFF was a beast in college... He killed everyone...

Cordale Jones didn't have very much game tape to examine his tendencies.

Watson is a beast... I thought Bama did okay... He made some spectacular throws on the run last night. I mean the dude escaped the pocket like 4 or 5 times when I thought it was going to be a sack...
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14483 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:40 am to
Everyone has trouble stopping those kinds of players.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:40 am to
quote:

LSU didn't with chavis. that is the truth.


It was arguably his greatest flaw at TN. We dreaded facing running QBs.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Everyone has trouble stopping them.
Chavis didn't. Not in 2012 or 2013. JFF got off to a hot start in 2012 and Chavis locked his arse down the rest of the way.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:40 am to
according to BamaScoop he has conquered the spread and those types of QB's..
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:41 am to
Simple answer, defensive coverages do not count the QB as a threat.

You can "spy" the QB with a player like a LB but then you have to drop a DL to take his spot in the hook or flat zone he was supposed to cover.
Posted by Kamikaze25
Columbia
Member since Jul 2015
1199 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Chavis didn't. Not in 2012 or 2013. JFF got off to a hot start in 2012 and Chavis locked his arse down the rest of the way.


Hell, Mizzou locked Manziel's arse down in 2013...

Held him to 216 total yards and 1 td.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 9:44 am
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3226 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:42 am to
You misunderstand. I'm not just talking DB's. You man up across the board and put a hat on the QB and RB on every play with the read option regardless of who takes the handoff. But that was not really the issue last night. Watson was incredibly precise. Watch LSUs games against JFF back in the day. No cutesy plays, just punishment.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:42 am to
quote:

uhh bama plays predominantly "straight up man coverage."
Bama runs combo man
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3176 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:43 am to
I'm aware of what man coverage is, thanks.
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