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re: Why did Maurice Smith want to leave Alabama?
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:06 am to mattloc
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:06 am to mattloc
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My point is that Turman should have been permitted to transfer and play for the fired Coach he committed to play for almost 4 years ago.
While it may seem that players are committing to COACHES, the reality is that when you commit, you commit to the SCHOOL. This idea that an undergrad on a scholarship should be able to readily pick up and follow a departed coach around is silly.
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:06 am to mattloc
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That means that if Turman wanted to go to either of those two schools he would have to pay his own way for a year.
This is incorrect. Only at UF, he would be able to be on scholarship at Miami, just wouldnt be able to play the first year.
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So its ok to graduate anywhere but Florida or Miami...What a crock of sh*t....strictly punitive and petty on Kirbys part
Where did Kirby restrict where he is going to potentially graduate? Turman can graduate at either school. But again you clearly are incapable of seeing the difference in the situations
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:22 am to mattloc
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What difference does that make if a kid commits to a school with a certain head coach, and the coach is fired that kid should have an opportunity to go with the head coach he committed to play for... why should graduation even be a factor
In this case it makes a big difference. One is a NCAA rule and one is limited to the SEC. Not only that, but you WOULD be turning things into a free for all, grab bag, free agency situation if you let kids go to different schools every year.
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Obviously you have never been in a thread with Roger Klarvin
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:26 am to mattloc
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It was a Kirby Smart imposed restriction. .....In my opinion it was petty and I stand by that.
So, you are saying when Saban denied the waiver to Mo Smith initially that it was petty?
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:29 am to 12thFairway
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Maurice was enticed by Kirby for some reason into an illogical situation unless Maurice
Whaaaat? Maurice's mother started this thing last November. What makes you say Kirby enticed Smith? How in the world did you EVER get that idea?
He was going to Baylor, not Georgia initially when he wanted to leave Alabama. You guys are simply making it up as you go, now.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:54 am to DawgsLife
quote:So you feel that Kirby played no part whatsoever in getting Maurice to come to Georgia?
What makes you say Kirby enticed Smith?
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:55 am to bamaqna
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So you feel that Kirby played no part whatsoever in getting Maurice to come to Georgia?
sure after Alabama signed off and allowed them to talk to each other
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:05 am to NYCAuburn
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That means that if Turman wanted to go to either of those two schools he would have to pay his own way for a year.
This is incorrect. Only at UF, he would be able to be on scholarship at Miami, just wouldnt be able to play the first year.
That is a direct quote from a dawgnation article linked earlier in this thread. glad you were able to set them straight.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:12 am to NYCAuburn
quote:LOL Suurreee bud
sure after Alabama signed off and allowed them to talk to each other
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:12 am to mattloc
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That is a direct quote from a dawgnation article linked earlier in this thread. glad you were able to set them straight.
Then they are incorrect with reference to Miami.
NCAA rules for non grads are they can transfer, but have to sit out a year of play while on scholarship. (other rules can restrict actual transfer as well)
For Grads, can transfer and play right away
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:12 am to DawgsLife
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In this case it makes a big difference. One is a NCAA rule and one is limited to the SEC. Not only that, but you WOULD be turning things into a free for all, grab bag, free agency situation if you let kids go to different schools every year.
When a Coach recruits a Kid and is forced out, and that kid feels like that Coach can do a better job developing him personally or professionally, the Kid should be allowed to transfer with the Coach. This scenario would rarely play out and is only fair to the kids who were recruited to Georgia under the pretense they would be coached by Richt.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:13 am to bamaqna
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LOL Suurreee bud
oh so it's all a conspiracy
Better pull your tinfoil hat back out.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:13 am to S1C EM
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This idea that an undergrad on a scholarship should be able to readily pick up and follow a departed coach around is silly.
I see... it is ok to lie to a kid and tell him he is coming to play for Richt. Said kid believes that Richt is the best coach for his development and commits. Then Kirby comes in and says you can transfer to anywhere but to the guy you committed to play for.....Gotcha ...makes sense to me....bait and switch
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:53 pm to NYCAuburn
Not a conspiracy I can just put two and two together and come up with my own thoughts, but you're an Auburn fan and of course you gonna believe Bama fans are just being paranoid about nothing
Posted on 8/16/16 at 5:36 pm to mattloc
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When a Coach recruits a Kid and is forced out, and that kid feels like that Coach can do a better job developing him personally or professionally, the Kid should be allowed to transfer with the Coach. This scenario would rarely play out and is only fair to the kids who were recruited to Georgia under the pretense they would be coached by Richt.
So you have an issue with the ncaa giving the schools the power making transferrin difficult for undergrads. Glad we cleared that up.
The funny thing about what you are saying is that Truman was gonna leave richt at Uga if we kept richt around. He wanted to be a primary running back and that wasn't happening under richt at Uga.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 5:45 pm to mattloc
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ok to lie to a kid and tell him he is coming to play for Richt. Said kid believes that Richt is the best coach for his development and commits. Then Kirby comes in and says you can transfer to anywhere but to the guy you committed to play for.....Gotcha ...makes sense to me....bait and switch
What lie? Every kid knows they sign with the school from the start, and he got to ride the bench for years under richt.
You still haven't acknowledged the fact that Truman never said he wanted to play for richt at Miami.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 5:36 am to djsdawg
Sure......He didn't want to go to Miami or Florida, so we told him he can go anywhere he wants except Miami or Florida. ....lol
If he didn't express an interest in going there, why restrict him?
"Turman told the AJC on Thursday that he didn’t have any specific schools in mind, and would start contacting schools now that he had a release." That statement followed a few paragraphs later by this: "“A.J. did not appeal anything.
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"He didn’t have to appeal anything, because we ended up granting him a release to where he wanted to go to,"Smart said."
If Turman doesn't know where he wants to go, how could he have been granted a release to go where he wants to go? .....And if he decides he'd like to go to Florida or Miami, he can't go where he wants to go because of the restriction put on him by Smart.....petty and poorly handled
If he didn't express an interest in going there, why restrict him?
"Turman told the AJC on Thursday that he didn’t have any specific schools in mind, and would start contacting schools now that he had a release." That statement followed a few paragraphs later by this: "“A.J. did not appeal anything.
misinformation
"He didn’t have to appeal anything, because we ended up granting him a release to where he wanted to go to,"Smart said."
If Turman doesn't know where he wants to go, how could he have been granted a release to go where he wants to go? .....And if he decides he'd like to go to Florida or Miami, he can't go where he wants to go because of the restriction put on him by Smart.....petty and poorly handled
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 5:49 am
Posted on 8/17/16 at 6:06 am to mattloc
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If Turman doesn't know where he wants to go, how could he have been granted a release to go where he wants to go? .....And if he decides he'd like to go to Florida or Miami, he can't go where he wants to go because of the restriction put on him by
"Corch Smart, I want to transfer" says young Turman
"You can't go to Florida or Miami" says Corch Smart
"Corch Richt never played me, hate jorts, not considering either"
"Good deal son, then you can go anywhere you want if you don't like jorts and spray tans"
See how this works?
Posted on 8/17/16 at 7:00 am to mattloc
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didn't express an interest in going there, why restrict him?
To set a standard for the whole roster, an understanding. You have already been told that.
Whatever you say about smart and his transfer of an undergrad, its far less petty than sabans treatment of graduate student smith.
Turman wanted to go to fau, and we released him to go to fau.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 7:20 am to mattloc
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And if he decides he'd like to go to Florida or Miami, he can't go where he wants to go because of the restriction put on him by Smart.....petty and poorly handled
He could go to school at either UF or Miami if he wants too....he just can't be on football scholarship or play football for 1 year. Kid wants to play for them, he can get a job for 1 year and pay tuition like every other kid does at the school.
Not sure why you are having a tough time grasping these scenarios and how they differ from undergrad and grad students.
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