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re: Why did Arkansas score so many points against bama?

Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by Titus Pullo
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:09 pm to
Arkansas QB was making some great passed and their receivers some great catches. Anytime UA had a busted coverage they seemed to pick up on it and make a great play.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:11 pm to
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I really don't believe it is. It's one that Arkansas got away with.

rich coming from an Alabama fan
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:12 pm to
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So, what then? Block in the back?

Holding, unnecessary roughness, etc. Take your pick.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:13 pm to
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Holding, unnecessary roughness, etc. Take your pick.


The play when our Dline held down Hurts? You think that is a hold?

If the ref really felt he went out of the way, you could maybe say unnecessary roughness but anyone who thinks that is a hold doesn't understand the rules.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:14 pm to
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rich coming from an Alabama fan
What's that got to do with anything?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:15 pm to
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How many starting o-line is UT missing? Is the first string center going to play? App State embarrassed UT's o-line. What do you think Tim Williams and Ryan Anderson are going to do to them? Dobbs will have less than two seconds in the pocket. He might be able to extend some plays with his legs, but I don't recommend it, if Foster is near.


Our OL is much improved since then. The problem was that we were missing our starter at RT who had to have his knee scoped and lots of guys were moved around to try and compensate. Our then center was also playing on two bum ankles.

As for missing starters, Jashon will be back at G but Boulware proved to be a road grader in his place. Weisman has a concussion and will play if possible but keep in mind that Coleman Thomas who came into the game to replace him has been our starting center in the past (he's just played terribly this season because of injury). That said, Thomas graded out higher than any other OL that game and he may have finally healed enough to take his job back.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:15 pm to
Because the refs kept bailing them out! It was 42-17 at one point.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 7:16 pm
Posted by hogNsinceReagan
Fayetteville, Ar
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:19 pm to
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Holding


Just because his hand fit around the back of his neck doesn't make it holding.

I honestly don't think that play was illegal. Like viceman said, "that's football". If he would have tried to crawl on his back it would have been a clumsy mess.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42620 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:19 pm to
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UT's o-line has improved, but they haven't faced a d-line like this. Do you understand how hard it is to replace a center?


Replacing a center with a starting center is actually pretty easy. CT only lost his job because he was injured. Weisman is not normally our center.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:19 pm to
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The play when our Dline held down Hurts? You think that is a hold?
It absolutely is a hold. You can't restrain a player against the ground. You can be slow to get up after a block, but what the Arkansas player did was 100% holding.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:19 pm to
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Our OL is much improved since then. The problem was that we were missing our starter at RT who had to have his knee scoped and lots of guys were moved around to try and compensate. Our then center was also playing on two bum ankles.

As for missing starters, Jashon will be back at G but Boulware proved to be a road grader in his place. Weisman has a concussion and will play if possible but keep in mind that Coleman Thomas who came into the game to replace him has been our starting center in the past (he's just played terribly this season because of injury). That said, Thomas graded out higher than any other OL that game and he may have finally healed enough to take his job back.


I see. What about UT's d-line? Are they healthy?
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10397 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:22 pm to
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As I recall the refs totally trick fricked Hogs with a shitty phantom holding call in the first half. Took a TD off the board.


Yes, and that umpire (Wiehe) has been banned from working Arkansas games ever again. Per the SEC office.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42620 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:23 pm to
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I see. What about UT's d-line? Are they healthy?


We're out Danny O'Brien (likely due to a failed drug test) but otherwise ok at DL. We also get back our starting MLB for this game (he's been out since Tech).

EDIT: We're most vulnerable at corner since we lost Cam. Maybe at one of the safety spots depending on Abernathy's status.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 7:27 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:23 pm to
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It absolutely is a hold.


No it isn't and has been example earlier in this thread why it isn't, I'm not sure how someone could think that. Offensive lineman do something similar all the time when they get the Dlineman on the ground.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16515 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:24 pm to
u are a DA if you think that was legal.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16515 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:25 pm to
there is a picture that shows clearly it as a hold. go to th Bama page and they have it from the video of the game. CBS kept showing one angle only
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16515 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:26 pm to
U are a DA if you think that play was legal.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16515 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:26 pm to
U got a link to that?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:29 pm to
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U are a DA if you think that play was legal.


District Attorney? No but warm
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