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re: Why Arkansas should be ranked in the top 2 with win over LSU

Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:06 pm to
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They just aren't good reasons. I know you think they are b/c you wasted all that time typing them out. But they aren't.





They aren't good reasons because you don't like them. Now what were you saying about margins of victory for the hundredth time?
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:09 pm to
They aren't good reasons b/c they're stupid. The computers will have LSU at #1 even if you beat us 50-0. The votes will all get split - Bama will get the most - the computers will be enough to keep LSU ahead of Arkansas.

I don't care about your game against 5-6 A&M, or your 8 game winning streak. No one does.

This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 6:10 pm
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
4928 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:10 pm to
#2 about playing both big games on the road is the only one i give some credit to.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:12 pm to
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They aren't good reasons b/c they're stupid.




1. Longest winning streak capped off by #3 winning @ #1.

2. Arkansas had to play both LSU and Bama on the road. Only Arkansas didn't lose a home game, and Bama would not have won one on the road whereas Arkansas would have.

3. Only Arkansas had to play one of the two ranked teams from the East.

.... Yeah, these reasons are STOOOPID!!1 DDEERP!
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 6:14 pm
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:16 pm to
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Longest winning streak
Irrelevant

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Arkansas had to play both LSU and Bama on the road
Impressive, I'll give you that. However, you lost one of those by 24. And LSU still played 1 of the 2 on the road as well.

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Only Arkansas had to play one of the two tanked teams from the East
Meh, we'll have played and beat 2 conference champs away from home

And let us not forget again, that YOU LOST TO BAMA BY 24! YOU AREN'T JUMPING THEM.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:18 pm to
We will probably never know how things will play if Arky beats LSU. But if Arkansas can pull the upset, then I think there's a better chance LSU gets left our of the top 2 than Arkansas, although I believe Arkansas and LSU would be the two most deserving of being in the top 2.
Posted by chipd
Seattle
Member since Jul 2011
373 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:20 pm to
You argument..while I believe flawed, is only an argument of where Arkansas will be ranked in the human polls. Most people who know, feel that Arkansas would not gain enough in the computer polls to pass LSU in the BCS...sorry.
Of course all this is mute, since LSU will be more than up to the task of beating the Razorbacks and punching our ticket to the SECCG and in reality, the BCSCG
Posted by mla0003
Member since Sep 2010
1425 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:21 pm to
Alabama looks like a better team than Arkansas
Posted by chipd
Seattle
Member since Jul 2011
373 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:26 pm to
In some twisted way.. the one good thing that would come from losing to Arkansas or Georgia; it would take away any injustice I feel about having to beat Bama twice for a NC. :

lol:
Posted by SohCahToa
New Orleans, La
Member since Jan 2011
7750 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

You argument..while I believe flawed, is only an argument of where Arkansas will be ranked in the human polls. Most people who know, feel that Arkansas would not gain enough in the computer polls to pass LSU in the BCS...sorry.
Of course all this is mute, since LSU will be more than up to the task of beating the Razorbacks and punching our ticket to the SECCG and in reality, the BCSCG


Seriously..
Posted by TheTigerZone
Moss Bluff ,La
Member since Dec 2009
2343 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by TXARTiger
East Texas
Member since Sep 2007
1010 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:55 pm to
Why don't you do it, before you talk about it?

Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:07 pm to
I swear to god,..... I'd bet my best bluetick hound pup that LSU shuts up all you bacon lovers come the weekend! ................. It's insane,.... its bad enough that LSU is going to have to play a team that did not even win their conference (ship) as the young'uns call it,...... but LSU has to play, and beat the same (Alabama) team they already beat! And do it this time for the (SHIP)............... What pray tell does the rest of the cottin pik'n world want from em?????????????????????????????? Tell me that bacon nation!
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:09 pm to
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What pray tell does the rest of the cottin pik'n world want from em?????????????????????????????? Tell me that bacon nation!


If LSU wins the Boot, they win the West. If LSU beats UGA, then LSU will be SEC as well as national champions in my book.
Posted by Stonehog
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:11 pm to
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I'd bet my best bluetick hound pup


I bet that is one cute pup. My lady and I are hound people as well. By that I mean we own hound dogs, we are not hound/human hybrids.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26297 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:13 pm to
Sorry if you already saw this (it's been a crazy hectic day at work for me)....But Brad Edwards finally conceded that LSU is indeed going to win the tiebreaker if Arkansas beats LSU...

BCS Minute: What if Arkansas defeats LSU?


Edwards was all over the place on this topic last night, but it appears he finally sat down at checked out the computers today.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 7:15 pm
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:16 pm to
There are a lot of BCS super geniuses that say LSU will be #3 if they lose. Edwards is just one guy and he even 'conceded' that there's a chance LSU would be #3.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26297 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:18 pm to
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There are a lot of BCS super geniuses that say LSU will be #3 if they lose. Edwards is just one guy and he even 'conceded' that there's a chance LSU would be #3.


I actually think Jon Ham makes some good arguments, but when push comes to shove the computers (and the math) make it impossible for LSU to fall out of the Top2.


quote:

There are a lot of BCS super geniuses that say LSU will be #3 if they lose.


Link? You certainly might have some people saying LSU will be at 3 in the human polls if they lose. Lsu likely will be at 3 in the human polls. But it's impossible for LSU to be at 3 in the BCS.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:19 pm to
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JPLSU1981


Edwards made the comment that he couldn't see Bama falling one spot after beating Auburn. Arkansas fell one spot after beating 10th ranked USC by 16 points.

(I replied to you with this comment in another thread, you can ignore that one).
Posted by lathoroughbred
Louisiana/Kentucky
Member since May 2008
8096 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:30 pm to
Stopped reading here
quote:

Arkansas should be ranked in the top 2 with win over LSU


But watch ESPN they are giving you a shot. Which is proof positive you will get arse-hammered.
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