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re: Why Arkansas should be ranked in the top 2 with win over LSU

Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:48 pm to
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How could a voter put Arky ahead of Bama with a straight face?




See the OP.
I noticed that the OP was devoid of any discussion of the 24-point arse whipping they gave y'all. Avoiding it doesn't make it go away. When it comes down to filling in those slots, voters will remember. I don't care how much y'all swear you've improved since then (y'all really showed Vandy!) - voters don't care about that. You got whooped by Bama. You aren't jumping them.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

I noticed that the OP was devoid of any discussion of the 24-point arse whipping they gave y'all. Avoiding it doesn't make it go away. When it comes down to filling in those slots, voters will remember. I don't care how much y'all swear you've improved since then (y'all really showed Vandy!) - voters don't care about that. You got whooped by Bama. You aren't jumping them.


exactly. one of the main reasons we got to play in the NC in '07 was because of the beatdown we put on Virginia Tech. voters remember that stuff and we jumped all the way up to #2 after the SECCG....ahead of #3 VT
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 5:51 pm
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:53 pm to
quote:


If Arky wins (not a blowout, just a 24-17 type game):

Human Polls
Bama
Arky
LSU

Computers
LSU
Bama
Arky

BCS Total
Bama
LSU
Arky


This. of course, that is assuming Arky doesn't shock the freaking world and win by double digits.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:53 pm to
I agree with Mr. Ham
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:56 pm to
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exactly. one of the main reasons we got to play in the NC in '07 was because of the beatdown we put on Virginia Tech. voters remember that stuff and we jumped all the way up to #2 after the SECCG....ahead of #3 VT


I really don't see LSU dropping past 2 assuming they lose a close one to Arkansas . I think Bama would end up #1 in the BCS because they'd get most of the #1 votes in the human polls while LSU would get most of the computer polls over everyone else. Okie State would take a bit of a hit because Arky would stay ahead of them in the human polls. I think at that point LSU would simply need to beat UGA in the title game to cement their spot against Alabama in the BCS Title game.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

I noticed that the OP was devoid of any discussion of the 24-point arse whipping they gave y'all.


Margin of victory is one factor. The reasons listed in the OP should be more important than margin of victory, because a 1 point win and a 100 point win are both still just ONE win, and a 1 point loss or a 100 point loss are both still ONE loss.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:57 pm to
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I really don't see LSU dropping past 2 assuming they lose a close one to Arkansas . I think Bama would end up #1 in the BCS because they'd get most of the #1 votes in the human polls while LSU would get most of the computer polls over everyone else. Okie State would take a bit of a hit because Arky would stay ahead of them in the human polls. I think at that point LSU would simply need to beat UGA in the title game to cement their spot against Alabama in the BCS Title game.



agreed


although LSU is going to stomp a mudhole in arky anyways so this is all a moot point
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

because a 1 point win and a 100 point win are both still just ONE win, and a 1 point loss or a 100 point loss are both still ONE loss.


only with the computers.....and you're not going to get any help there.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Margin of victory is one factor. The reasons listed in the OP should be more important than margin of victory, because a 1 point win and a 100 point win are both still just ONE win, and a 1 point loss or a 100 point loss are both still ONE loss.
Not in the human polls, which is what I'm talking about. How could a human being, who watched what they did to y'all, put you ahead of Bama? Not happening.
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:01 pm to
Im convinced
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:01 pm to
LSU should still be ranked over both of them because of SOS. Are you freakin kidding me with that mess? PLUUUEEEZZZZ
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

How could a human being, who watched what they did to y'all, put you ahead of Bama? Not happening.


The same way they could put Bama over LSU, and for the reasons listed in the OP.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

Im convinced


Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85044 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:02 pm to
Didn't read it all, but did you include anything about Bama arse raping your team head to head, and barely losing to LSU in OT, and how did it further your scenario of Bama being behind Arky?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81263 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:02 pm to
i wouldnt worry too much about the whole "arkansas with win over LSU" scenario
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

The same way they could put Bama over LSU
9-6 in OT. Different story.

quote:

and for the reasons listed in the OP
They just aren't good reasons. I know you think they are b/c you wasted all that time typing them out. But they aren't.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

LSU should still be ranked over both of them because of SOS. Are you freakin kidding me with that mess?


You didn't read the whole OP:

quote:

the final rankings should be one of the two:

1. Arkansas
2. LSU
3. Bama

or

1. LSU
2. Arkansas
3. Bama
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Didn't read it all, but did you include anything about Bama arse raping your team head to head, and barely losing to LSU in OT, and how did it further your scenario of Bama being behind Arky?
B/c of the reasons listed in the OP....duh
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:04 pm to
this is irrelevant as the hogs will lose by 14+. They are fugazi at #3. When Ole Miss and Vandy take you to the wire...
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

You didn't read the whole OP:


quote:


the final rankings should be one of the two:

1. Arkansas
2. LSU
3. Bama

or

1. LSU
2. Arkansas
3. Bama
Both of your scenarios still have Arky over Bama. I know you're trying to forget that game ever happened, but it did.
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