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re: Why Arkansas should be ranked in the top 2 with win over LSU

Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:26 pm to
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I wouldn't say the computers hate Arkansas. With a win friday we should have the same computer average as bama.
I wouldn't count on it. That's why you don't start the year off against 3 high school teams.

But either way, LSU would kill you in the computers, and Bama would kill you with the voters.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:26 pm to
seems legit but it aint happening
Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
2417 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

-Arkansas finished the season on a 8 game winning streak with win @ #1, Bama finishes on a 3 game winning streak.


Alot of people who watched your game with Vandy consider that a loss....
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:27 pm to
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the only fan base more delusional then yours is Houston's..


We're 10-1, ranked #3, and I'm saying that IF Arkansas wins @ #1 LSU, we should be in top 2. There is not a damn thing delusional about it.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:28 pm to
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Alot of people who watched your game with Vandy consider that a loss....
Yup. And they aren't going to do as well with the pollsters as they think - half the sports writers have forgotten that Arky even had a team this year. I've never seen a team fly under the radar this much and be #3. Not a good thing in a popularity contest.
Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
2417 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

We're 10-1, ranked #3, and I'm saying that IF Arkansas wins @ #1 LSU, we should be in top 2. There is not a damn thing delusional about it.


We beat #2 Bama @ Bama...remind me how many spots they dropped.

You really need to study the BCS some more. There's a little thing called strength of schedule. Just because your team has a great day and ours is flat and you squeak out a win even in our house..doesnt mean you deserve squat. We've been playing and beating the big boys all year long.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
10989 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:33 pm to
No you won't...stop dreaming...bring your best to Tiger Stadium...beat LSU...then and only then can you talk !
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62506 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:36 pm to
I do see AR going to #2 in the human polls, but being jumped by the computers, putting AR at #3 BCS, if they beat LSU.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62506 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:36 pm to
I do see AR going to #2 in the human polls, but being jumped by the computers, putting AR at #3 BCS, if they beat LSU.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:37 pm to
Do yall honestly think the #3 team would stay at #3 after a win @ #1 and with #1, #2, and #3 all ending with the same record? From my perspective, those who believe Arkansas would stay @ #3 are the delusional ones.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32750 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:38 pm to
Fair enough. I don't even really care about anything else if we beat lsu this season.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62506 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

From my perspective, those who believe Arkansas would stay @ #3 are the delusional ones.


Just watch! Hopefully it won't come to that.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

Arkansas faced one of the two ranked teams from the East and beat them


So did Auburn.

If anyone wants to look at common opponents, as they often do when comparing Bama and LSU, they will see that (other than MSU) Bama dramatically outplayed the common opponents.

You squeaked by Ole Miss (Bama won by 45) and Vandy (Bama won by 34).
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:43 pm to
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You squeaked by Ole Miss (Bama won by 45) and Vandy (Bama won by 34).


Bama has the margin's of victory in its favor. Margin of victory is not nearly as important as the facts listed in the OP, however.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:44 pm to
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Do yall honestly think the #3 team would stay at #3 after a win @ #1 and with #1, #2, and #3 all ending with the same record?
I expect Arky would move to #2 in the human polls, but LSU's computer ranking would have LSU at 2. Do you honestly believe Arky would move to #1 over Bama after getting thrashed by them earlier this year? How could a voter put Arky ahead of Bama with a straight face?
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:44 pm to
I've watched Arkansas barely escape by the skins of their balls against Texas A&M, Vandy, and Ole Miss. Meanwhile LSU has blown out everyone they have played minus Alabama who blew out Arky.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62084 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Do yall honestly think the #3 team would stay at #3 after a win @ #1 and with #1, #2, and #3 all ending with the same record? From my perspective, those who believe Arkansas would stay @ #3 are the delusional ones.


BCS ranking is the only ranking that matters. Why would #3 Arkansas jump #2 Bama who throttled Arky this season? Arkansas will need to be more than 1 spot ahead of LSU in the human polls to overcome the huge computer advantage that LSU will have because we didn't play Mizzou St, Troy, New Mexico, and a .500 A&M as our out of conference opponents.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28606 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

How could a voter put Arky ahead of Bama with a straight face?


See the OP.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14524 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:46 pm to
If Arky wins (not a blowout, just a 24-17 type game):

Human Polls
Bama
Arky
LSU

Computers
LSU
Bama
Arky

BCS Total
Bama
LSU
Arky
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:47 pm to
is it wrong that a small part of me wants LSU to lose Friday just so i can see the meltdown on here when LSU drops to #2 and still goes to the SECCG
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