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re: Why are SEC West non-con schedules so lame?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:17 pm to OBReb6
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:17 pm to OBReb6
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0-11 homes. A meager 15 years ago.
And what were you then, 2 yrs old homes?
SCAR played one of the toughest schedules in the country in 99 ... with ziltch for talent. It was probably one of Holtz's greatest coaching jobs - just keeping that team together and competing week to week was amazing. That's why we still sold out that stadium every single week ... because our boys were putting-out the effort in the face if overwelming adversities.
We opened at NCST in a hurricane against a Philip Rivers/Tory Holt team that the refs still had to screw us over for NCST to win.
We lost to a 9 win ECU team and a Clemson team that had three future first round draft picks ... that was on top of facing a SEC East schedule that was far tougher than the West back then ...both UF and UT were Top 5 when we played them plus we picked up a good MSU team from the West in addition to Ole Miss and Arkansas.
Wanna compare records and accomplishments since then ... homes?
We had the biggest turnaround in NCAA history from 99-2000 and beat Ohio State on New Years Day the following season homes ....
Again ... you wanna compare records and accomplishments since then, homes?
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 10:26 pm
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:19 pm to Klongdawg
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The West has to play the West. There for we should be able to schedule whoever the frick we want to schedule, after that.
What was the regular season record of East vs West last year?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:20 pm to NWLATigerFan12
regardless they are never challenged outside of LSU and Auburn on a consistent basis.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:34 pm to UltimateHog
quote:Serious answer (not to the troll thread, but to the actually legit question):
Why are SEC West non-con schedules so lame?
Traditional rivalries that predate the current college alignments.
Florida plays Florida St and/or Miami. That will always be big.
Georgia plays Georgia Tech. They may not matter, but is a respectable series.
South Carolina plays Clemson. Clemson actually is the marquee name in this series, despite the modern turnaround.
Alabama has its' rivals all in the SEC; Auburn and Tennessee.
LSU could have had A&M, but the Aggies came into the conference; and could have Tulane, but that's a nothing game now.
A&M could have Texas, but the Longhorns are cowardly douche bags.
Auburn has Bama and Georgia, maybe Florida; again like the Tide it's all inside the SEC.
So you have major teams looking to schedule other major teams, each with their own stipulations. Back in the 90's Tennessee was able to land some big home-and-home games, but they don't really have a go-to opponent that would spruce up the schedule every year. Bama and LSU (and Auburn) have recently made the preseason kickoff games, as well as been able to land the occasional marquee home-and-home, but mostly, teams are scrambling to fill slots in the schedule with an eye on seats.
Why did Mizzou drop the Illinois game? That seemed like a nice, interesting matchup, natural borders, major conference matchup etc. It would have sold seats I imagine, even if it lacked major TV revenue.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:51 pm to IT_Dawg
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If I read it right, in the last five years the SECW has won 67% of it's games vs the East and only Ole Miss has a losing record.
Last 5 SEC Champions were from the west, last 5 BCS National Championship games......
now I'm going to melt over what I can't write. i'm out.
If I read it right, in the last five years the SECW has won 67% of it's games vs the East and only Ole Miss has a losing record.
Last 5 SEC Champions were from the west, last 5 BCS National Championship games......
now I'm going to melt over what I can't write. i'm out. Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:53 pm to Scoob
There should be a new SEC rule that says outside of South Carolina, nobody is to play Clemson.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:29 pm to Scoob
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South Carolina plays Clemson. Clemson actually is the marquee name in this series, despite the modern turnaround.
Even if that were true, which it's not ... what does that have to do with OOC opponents?
Answer: Nothing
Clemson is a has-been at best, a never was at worst, and they are losing ground so fast that pretty much every decent college football fan, except you evidently, recognizes the fact that they are almost incapable of winning the big games.
In other words, Clemson is trending down, SCAR is trending up ... that applies to everything in life. Growth, maintenance, decline. Business, life, football programs, whatever. Growth, maintenance, decline.
SCAR >>> taterheads. It was inevitable the day we joined the SEC 22 years ago.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:30 pm to scrooster
quote:when in the frick did i say it was...jesus
LSU's non-conference schedule is no better than SCAR's. It hasn't been for years.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:30 pm to scrooster
There's a reason they call it "Clemsoning" lololol, oh yeah and West Virgina just scored.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:34 pm to ThePoo
a lot of the SEC east's in state rivals are out of conference unlike the west
Florida, Georgia, USCe, Kentucky
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:18 am to Tigerjackswartz
Because we all can't play in the east 
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:05 am to MaroonNation
We all can't play Miss State.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:21 am to MaroonNation
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Because we all can't play in the east
What? Under Mullen has MSU even beaten an East team with a winning record? I think I counted 9 wins vs the East, at least 5 of which were against UK, 1 was a 5-7 UT team, another was against a 6-7 UGA team, and the last was a 2-10 Vandy team.
Sorry man but it doesn't matter what division MSU is playing in they aren't cracking any higher than 4th.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:51 am to ThePoo
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when in the frick did i say it was...jesus
When you typed this ...
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Yeah with the exception of UGA everyone has 3 scrubs and one moderately hide to really good team
ECU is no scrub ... they upset someone every year and they are returning almost everyone from a ten-win (10-3) team last year including a helluva QB. And worse, their players, fans and coaches consider our game their super bowl. We're a big rival to them because we take a lot of players outta their backyard. They absolutely annihilated UNC and NC State last season and they like being big underdogs.
ECU is no scrub. Neither is Clemson of course, but I assumed you were referring to Clemson as a moderately high to really good team.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:01 am to ThePoo
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a lot of the SEC east's in state rivals are out of conference unlike the west
Florida, Georgia, USCe, Kentucky
That's true. There aren't many "natural" OOC rivals for the west teams (with the exception of Texas/Texas A&M (but we won't go there)). Still doesn't meany you have to schedule Western Carolina...
My guess is that over the next few years, with SOS figuring heavily in who makes the playoffs, you'll see this trend naturally reverse on it's own. In the BCS where the model was "Win every game, no matter what". Many of these OOC games are set, 3-4-5+ years in advance. It's not like schools can change them that quickly now that the model has changed.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:20 am to Tigerjackswartz
We all can't play a Top 10 OOC team EVERY year.
Scheduling works both ways. There has to be an opening for both teams to schedule in advance.
The SECW has played some excellent OOC games in the last several years:
UCLA, Penn State, Clemson, USC, Washington State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, BYU, Boise State, Va.Tech(07), Oregon(11), TCU(13), North Carolina(10), Washington(09,12), West Virginia(10,11,14), Wisconsin(14), Arizona(06), Arizona State(05), etc.
Scheduling works both ways. There has to be an opening for both teams to schedule in advance.
The SECW has played some excellent OOC games in the last several years:
UCLA, Penn State, Clemson, USC, Washington State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, BYU, Boise State, Va.Tech(07), Oregon(11), TCU(13), North Carolina(10), Washington(09,12), West Virginia(10,11,14), Wisconsin(14), Arizona(06), Arizona State(05), etc.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:51 pm to MetryTyger
IIRC a few of the better teams scheduled by LSU backed out causing us to have to schedule a last minute cupcake because no one decent was available as a replacement.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:34 pm to weagle99
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No SEC school should ever play in Toledo, OH.
Ole Miss recently played at Wyoming. I think that takes the cake.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:35 pm to Scoob
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Back in the 90's Tennessee was able to land some big home-and-home games, but they don't really have a go-to opponent that would spruce up the schedule every year
To UT's credit they still do, they just lose all of them.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:39 pm to Tigerjackswartz
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Why is the SEC East so lame?
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