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re: Who's program is the most insulated?

Posted on 2/22/13 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 3:48 pm to
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I understand the reasoning for Florida being the "best" job, but why LSU? LSU is a high end job, but I see no reason why it is better than Alabama or Oklahoma




You realize that Oklahoma is in . . ., Oklahoma?
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

You realize that Oklahoma is in . . ., Oklahoma?

What's wrong with Oklahoma? Be specific.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 3:50 pm to
Florida is the more high end talent than any state in the country. For most people, it is also an attractive place to live.

While I would personally prefer a program with great tradition, and some would consider Baton Rouge a great place to live, these are matters of taste. In measurable advantages, Florida is a very attractive job.
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 3:50 pm to
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Bill Curry, Ray Perkins, Dennis Franchione, Mike Shula, and Mike Dubose each have a 10 win season, including 2 1st place finishes in the SEC, all while coaching Alabama. Let that sink in for a minute.

My favorite one about Auburn is that even Terry Bowden and Gene Chizik managed to run the table here
Posted by noladan
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 3:55 pm to
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Bill Curry, Ray Perkins, Dennis Franchione, Mike Shula, and Mike Dubose each have a 10 win season, including 2 1st place finishes in the SEC, all while coaching Alabama. Let that sink in for a minute.
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My favorite one about Auburn is that even Terry Bowden and Gene Chizik managed to run the table here


And according to a lot of people Les Miles in an idiot, yet he has a national title and 2 SEC titles at LSU(while the SEC has been better than ever).
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 3:57 pm
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 3:59 pm to
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Florida is the more high end talent than any state in the country.

that has to be shared.

quote:

For most people, it is also an attractive place to live.

assuming you have never been to gainesville.

Not trying to rag on Florida as I do think its a top 5 job, I just don't understand why everyone always give them the benefit of the doubt but the same arguments can be made for LSU and Georgia for that matter.
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 4:01 pm
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24983 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:01 pm to
Current state of programs, facilities, and money considered, there really isn't much that separates the top 4, IMO (Bama, UF, UGA, and LSU).

eta: recruiting tends to favor LSU (only school in fertile recruiting state); UF and Bama do about the same instate considering they have battle other instate schools, and UGA seems to battle the hell out of other SEC schools in UGA every year.
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Froman
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:01 pm to
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this will turn into a flame thread by bama fans.


Prolly
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44369 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:02 pm to
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My favorite one about Auburn is that even Terry Bowden and Gene Chizik managed to run the table here



Yeah..if you suck at coaching football, the state of Alabama is the place to come for work if you want that one great season.
Posted by gideon
Member since Jan 2013
509 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:02 pm to
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Get your fancy words out of here.


the problem is the word doesn't make any damn sense in the context of his post.

Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:03 pm to
If you think Oklahoma is no good because it's in Oklahoma, but LSU is great because it's in Louisiana, then there's not a lot of debate on the subject.

The point that many people forget is that just because the majority of people might prefer certain things, a particular coach may be looking for something else entirely. If I were a premier head coach, I'd be looking at Alabama or Notre Dame. But another coach may not give a rat's arse about historical significance and would never want to live in Tuscaloosa or South Bend.
Posted by townestoldme2
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2012
499 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:28 pm to
Insulated from failure. For example, LSU's next coach could be shite, but the high school coaches in LA will still steer kids there... I really don't ever see that changing.

Oklahoma is in Oklahoma... I think they produced 10 D1 athletes last year. They are now losing recruits to TCU. LSU will never lose recruits to Tulane.
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 4:30 pm
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:33 pm to
UGA and LSU...they're clearly #1 in their state (s), whereas we have to compete against FSU and Miami.

Edit: Along with Ohio St, they're the best jobs in the country imo.
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 4:37 pm
Posted by PanhandleDawg
Navarre Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2011
5444 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:36 pm to
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While LSU and UF look better on paper. Alabama has a history and tradition of whining that keeps them above all others.


FIFY
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:50 pm to
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Bama is the king, but long term, it seems like LSU and Florida are in better position. People are always talking about the best job in the country and I don't see how it isn't UF or LSU?


Let's all take a moment of silence for the good ol' rocky top we all knew over a decade ago.
Posted by hsqb
Member since Oct 2009
623 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:58 pm to
Alabama

Florida LSU Georgia

A&M Auburn Tenn South Carolina

Arkansas Ole Miss MSU Mizzou

Vanderbilt Kentucky

Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:59 pm to
Probably Missouri, I think they just got some snow.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10851 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 5:24 pm to
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this will turn into a flame thread by bama fans.


Its intended purpose, no doubt.
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 5:25 pm
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

I dont understand what you mean by "insulated"


Same here.

When I think "insulated", I think Jonesville or Amish people or those fundamentalist Mormons living in West Texas.

Within the SEC, the Aggies are the closest thing I know of that resembles an insular cult.

Plus, Igloo coolers are made in Houston. Probably engineered and made by Aggies.

Ergo, I conclude that the Aggies are the most insulated program in the SEC.
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 7:24 pm
Posted by volforever
nashville
Member since May 2012
1788 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 7:23 pm to
Florida has everything they need to win big, I am surprised that they have not won more.
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