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re: Who will have a better Season? Auburn or Arkansas?
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:07 pm to lowspark12
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:07 pm to lowspark12
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That's why I think Arkansas could really struggle this year to move the ball... It will come down to Allen's development.
Not really, we return Kiero and added a good running back.
The O-line has made great strides in the offseason to current. Klenakis was fricking horrible. Plus the tackles are not swapping sides of the field every other play now.
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:09 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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So Wisconsin was a somewhat balanced passing team until Bert became coach. And as soon as he did, they went the other way?
You do not understand the difference between play calling and yardage, yet you want me to explain to you who Bert's team used the pass more than Alvarez's?
Sounds like a waste of time, like teaching a mute to sing.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:09 pm to Jockamo
Bama
LSU
A&M
Auburn
State
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Auburn has more talent overall. Schedule easier or about the same.
LSU
A&M
Auburn
State
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Auburn has more talent overall. Schedule easier or about the same.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:10 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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So Wisconsin was a somewhat balanced passing team until Bert became coach
Thats like the complete opposite of what he said lol
Even if we do run the ball a ton, Chaney makes the passing game competent when we do have to pass the ball. Under Nutt we were terrible at passing when we did have to pass. It's not a matter of throwing it 50 times a game just that we're successful at it
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:11 pm to gohogs141
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Even if we do run the ball a ton, Chaney makes the passing game competent when we do have to pass the ball. Under Nutt we were terrible at passing when we did have to pass. It's not a matter of throwing it 50 times a game just that we're successful at it
We're going to suck because we don't have Gus calling sweeps and screen plays followed by trick plays all game long.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:14 pm to DaleDenton
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Klenakis was fricking horrible.
you mean the Arkansas fans said invented the pistol?...
I thought you guys said he was gonna be such an upgrade? I won't argue Pittman is an upgrade over that guy... but SP's OLs have been under Chainey... and it goes back to the pass-first mentality of his offenses. Again, will be interesting to see Allen run that style of offense.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:15 pm to DaleDenton
quote:See you're learning. Everyone but Arkansas fans have been saying this all along. Every coach would if it won them the games like Gus. And a fan base that is so happy with their coach, yall sure do cry over Gus a lot.
We're going to suck because we don't have Gus calling sweeps and screen plays followed by trick plays all game long.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:20 pm to lowspark12
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you mean the Arkansas fans said invented the pistol?... I thought you guys said he was gonna be such an upgrade?
The guy he replaced was fricking horrible as well, that guy went to Kentucky.
But let's not play that game after all the talk about Auburn "returning to their roots with a power run game and defense" upgrades that were made to the staff last season...
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I won't argue Pittman is an upgrade over that guy... but SP's OLs have been under Chainey... and it goes back to the pass-first mentality of his offenses. Again, will be interesting to see Allen run that style of offense.
It is what he ran in HS, what he was brought in to run for Petrino, why KF only had a scholarship offer as an ATH.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:25 pm to DaleDenton
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It is what he ran in HS, what he was brought in to run for Petrino
it's also what he looked bad running last year... compare that to how Wilson looked when called upon as a backup and you can see why there were high hopes for the 2011 Arkansas Offense (for good reason) and why there might be some skepticism for 2013.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:33 pm to lowspark12
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it's also what he looked bad running last year... compare that to how Wilson looked when called upon as a backup and you can see why there were high hopes for the 2011 Arkansas Offense (for good reason) and why there might be some skepticism for 2013.
Bobby Petrino is a better play caller than Paul Petrino. All Paul called were deep vertical routes or mainly his fav., crossing routes.
Also Wilson was a RS-Soph with 3 years of game experience (played against Texas and in a couple other games is true frosh year before contracting mono and receiving a medical RS year).
Allen was a RS-Fr seeing his first action last year.
Allen was moving up the depth chart his Freshman year before being RS'd, he outplayed Brandon Mitchell (NC State now) the past two years. The staff says he is developing well.
For whatever reason, Petrino never gave the 2nd string meaningful snaps in games that were well within hand.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:33 pm to DaleDenton
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You do not understand the difference between play calling and yardage
I'm well aware of the difference between trying to get a balance between play calling and a balance with yardage. My point is the coach you had, and the coach you have are on two complete separate ends of the spectrum regardless of how you want to divide up the stats.
Bobby Petrino called 471 passing attempts and 412 rushing attempts in 2011. That is 883 total plays, or 53% passing/ 47% rushing plays called. Bert called 328 passing attempts and 609 rushing attempts in 2011. That is 937 total plays, or 35% passing/ 65% rushing plays called. An 18% swing.
Under Petrino and the 5695 you racked up, 4095 were passing yards and 1786 were rushing yards, or 72% of your total yards were passing and 28% was rushing. Under Bert and the 6578 you racked up, 3280 were passing yards and 3298 were rushing yards. That is 50/50. A 22% swing.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:34 pm to AMM AU9893
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Expect a hilariously rough season for Arkansas
you mean like last year
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:35 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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That is 50/50.
Which is the balance he is talking about.
What about 2010? When we had a healthy Knile Davis?
Did Petrino's play calling change? Or do we only look into one year hyperboles?
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:38 pm to DaleDenton
Both programs have to build back up after nightmares last year
I think we have a better chance due to a better schedule and a little more talent.
We will be better than Arky by one or possibly two games
Auburn 8-4
Arky 6-6
I think we have a better chance due to a better schedule and a little more talent.
We will be better than Arky by one or possibly two games
Auburn 8-4
Arky 6-6
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:39 pm to DaleDenton
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What about 2010? When we had a healthy Knile Davis?
Did Petrino's play calling change? Or do we only look into one year hyperboles?
Yes, it changed a lot. Instead of 72% of total yards being a result of the pass in 2011, it shot all the way down to 70% of total yards gained in 2010 were a result of the pass.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:41 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
quote:He isn't talking about balance by yards, he is talking about play calling.
Instead of 72% of total yards being a result of the pass in 2011, it shot all the way down to 70% of total yards gained in 2010 were a result of the pass.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:41 pm to lowspark12
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compare that to how Wilson looked when called upon as a backup
As a freshman in 2008 Wilson went 11/22 with 1 TD and 2 INTs
Plus as someone else said he was being coached by BP while allen got no coaching last year
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:44 pm to WDE24
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He isn't talking about balance by yards, he is talking about play calling.
For fricks sake, he keeps changing his argument to fit his agenda. First it was all about even yards, and now it's all about even play calling. Now he's talking about Petrino's ability to adapt to even out plays called, and not Bert's inability to.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:47 pm to oklahogjr
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oklahogjr
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I know which team was better last year and I know which one hired a proven coach. Other than us having a much tougher schedule I don't see how anyone could see auburn having a better year than us. At least we know our problems were from coaching, auburn had a NC winning coach leading them on the field.
Nail on the head
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