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re: Who will have a better Season? Auburn or Arkansas?

Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:40 pm to
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I thought you guys already knew?

Apparently it's not a sure thing. Kiehl has a shot...
Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
13189 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:43 pm to
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Kiehl has a shot...


Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:44 pm to
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Apparently it's not a sure thing. Kiehl has a shot...


He will be the starter after spending his entire career minus one year in Gus' offense coached by either him or his disciple.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51817 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:47 pm to
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You would be right if it wasn't for that pesky little thing Bert said about not running the same offense he did at Wisky


Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:48 pm to
Your claims are still invalid as he never said it was balanced in terms of play calling, he talks about balance in terms of yardage 200 passing 200 rushing is the example he most often gives.
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1339 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:49 pm to
Rather have a high school system and win then a "professional" system and get the shite beaten out of you every week.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51817 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:54 pm to
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Your claims are still invalid as he never said it was balanced in terms of play calling, he talks about balance in terms of yardage 200 passing 200 rushing is the example he most often gives.


Of course if you run the ball 3 times out of 4, the yardage is gonna be closer to 50%. That doesn't make it any less of a drastic change than what you're coming from. Compare passes to rushes, passing yards to rushing yards, etc...it's still completely backwards from what Arky is coming from.

So you wanna be 50%/50% in yardage. Congratulations, you were 69% passing yards/31% rushing yards in 2011.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:55 pm to
Auburn has a better coach and more talent. Arky will be real bad.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:55 pm to
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Your claims are still invalid as he never said it was balanced in terms of play calling, he talks about balance in terms of yardage 200 passing 200 rushing is the example he most often gives


Has Chainey come anywhere close to that as an OC?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:56 pm to
My money's on the kid in the wheel chair. That kid on crutches is too easy to knock over.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7512 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 2:57 pm to
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What's gonna be interesting to me is how Arkansas balance's Beilema's run-heavy style with Chainey's pass-heavy style... neither one seems comfortable with the other's game, but we'll see how it plays out. Tennessee would abandon the run very quickly, and weren't committed to it at all. Chainey was also stripped of his QB-coaching duties this past season, I believe.


Do you guys not think that coaches can adapt to their personnel? Tennessee had Bray, Hunter, Patterson and a good TE. Of course they would pass it more. Bielema had a great offensive line and RBs his entire time there so they ran it more. When he had russell wilson he used him.

I doubt BB would go to hawaii or texas tech and try to run the ball as much as he did at UW
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:00 pm to
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Has Chainey come anywhere close to that as an OC?



That is the end goal that the recruiting is being put into place for down the road.

All Chaney and Bert talk about for this season is calling plays and running the offense that best fits the players. They will be passing to set up the run, in the future it will be run to set up the pass.

Petrino passed to set up the run.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:01 pm to
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Do you guys not think that coaches can adapt to their personnel?


That's why it's interesting to see how it plays out... bringing two styles (run heavy vs. pass heavy) of offense together... and BB's background is defense... he probably doesn't have as much input in playcalling as some might think. Chryst was an outstanding playcaller at Wisconsin.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51817 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:02 pm to
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When he had russell wilson he used him.


He actually drastically cut both his rushing and passing attempts. But hey, he did manage to get Russell 3 catches. Tricky guy.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42348 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:03 pm to
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That's why it's interesting to see how it plays out... bringing two styles (run heavy vs. pass heavy) of offense together... and BB's background is defense... he probably doesn't have as much input in playcalling as some might think. Chryst was an outstanding playcaller at Wisconsin.


His teams actually moved more towards the pass than when he was there as a DC for Alvarez (or Alvarez's teams before).

Also of note, teams tend to run the ball when they are blowing out opponents, something Bert's team did somewhat frequently...
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:03 pm to
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They will be passing to set up the run, in the future it will be run to set up the pass.


That's why I think Arkansas could really struggle this year to move the ball... It will come down to Allen's development.
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:04 pm to
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Auburn has a better coach and more talent. Arky will be real bad.


wut
Posted by taylormade
Tumbleton
Member since Jan 2011
9802 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:05 pm to
Arky


Aub
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51817 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:05 pm to
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His teams actually moved more towards the pass than when he was there as a DC for Alvarez (or Alvarez's teams before).


So Wisconsin was a somewhat balanced passing team until Bert became coach. And as soon as he did, they went the other way?




And he is gonna ma.....frick it! Have fun!
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
6968 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 3:05 pm to
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Auburn has a better coach

based on what exactly?
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