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re: Who is the 2nd best QB in the SEC?

Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by BK785
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:38 pm to
Nor does OU's trash.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:41 pm to
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Brandon Harris?


I think it's gotta be Harris. Just haven't seen enough from Scott or McMillan to give them the nod.

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in the SEC?


Oh. I thought you were talking about on LSU's roster. I don't know.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:46 pm to
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Kelly and Allen's passing is nice but it's hard for me to discount Trevor's ability to run the ball.



Chad is also a good runner. Had a 41 yard TD run against UGA. Ran for over 100 yards a couple of times last year.

There's not much of a debate for 1st. After watching what Kelly did to them last year, even Arkansas fans can acknowledge that.
Posted by Farmer1906
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:47 pm to
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Nor does OU's trash.



Everyone disagrees.
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:58 pm to
I say Drew Lock. He has the next best QBR to Kelly.

1. Kelly - 171.03
2. Lock - 162.27
3. Allen - 159.41
4. Dobbs - 141.70
5. DelRio - 140.41
6. White - 138.55
7. Hurts - 136.83
8. Knight - 129.59
9. Fitzgerald - 128.35
10. Etling - 118.70
11. Eason - 113.83
12. Shurmur - 109.98
13. McIlwain - 108.10
14. Whoever the frick is QB at Kentucky. He is not even listed on the secsports website for passing stats...LOL

For everyone to be so high on Hurts and dog on Sean White so much, their passing stats are damn near identical across the board and Bama has played one more patsy team than AU has.

Sean White: 64/97, 65.98%, 7.67 ypa, 3 TD, 1 Int
Jalen Hurts: 64/102, 62.75%, 7.13 ypa, 5 TD, 1 Int
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 12:07 am
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:58 pm to
Hey, how did MsState do vs Danny Etling?

L... O... L
Posted by Piscinin
the hills
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:59 pm to
His 2 games vs. Eastern Michigan and Delaware State have massively inflated his stats tbf
Posted by DannyB
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:05 am to
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His 2 games vs. Eastern Michigan and Delaware State have massively inflated his stats tbf


I am sure these stats will change as the season progresses. Nice to see Dobbs finally wake up and get it going. Big fan of his.
Posted by Piscinin
the hills
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:09 am to
He shows up in big games, it's the cupcakes where Debord tries to protect him from hits where he never gets into a rhythm.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:11 am to
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His 2 games vs. Eastern Michigan and Delaware State have massively inflated his stats tbf


Agreed. 852 yards, 10 TD's, 0 interceptions and a 68.4 completion % in those two games.

He has 656 yards, 4 TD's, 3 INT's and a 51.6 completion % against P5 schools.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:14 am to
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their passing stats are damn near identical across the board and Bama has played one more patsy team than AU has.

Sean White: 64/97, 65.98%, 7.67 ypa, 3 TD, 1 Int
Jalen Hurts: 64/102, 62.75%, 7.13 ypa, 5 TD, 1 Int

From what I understand Hurts is much more dangerous with his legs than White.
Posted by smokehouse_83
New Mexico
Member since Jun 2013
1401 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:16 am to
Eason with a receivers that could catch a ball after getting separation would be deadly. He is really underrated because of this. If Eason would of went to ole piss he would probably be a heisman contender
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40892 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:17 am to
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From what I understand Hurts is much more dangerous with his legs than White.


Correct. To the tune of about 200 more yards on the ground this season.
Posted by Piscinin
the hills
Member since Nov 2015
3561 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:18 am to
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he would probably be a heisman contender



Steady
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:24 am to
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Correct. To the tune of about 200 more yards on the ground this season.


Looks like the way to beat Bama is stuff the run and force Hurts to beat you passing. They have not been the same Bama team as usual running the ball this year. Surprised to see that they are 2nd in the conference at rushing yards per game. they just don't seem as dominate on the ground as their stats show.

23 of Hurts completions and 287 of his yards came against WKU where they threw the ball almost 40 times. He did not impress me at all throwing against Ole Miss. I think if A&M plays D like they did against Arky that they will beat Bama.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 12:30 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:27 am to
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Michigan and Delaware State have massively inflated his stats tbf Agreed. 852 yards, 10 TD's, 0 interceptions and a 68.4 completion % in those two games. He has 656 yards, 4 TD's, 3 INT's and a 51.6 completion % against P5 schools.


Right, because Mizzou is the only team to have played cupcakes thus far.
Posted by Piscinin
the hills
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:34 am to
That's pretty obviously not what he's getting at with his comment.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:38 am to
He's cherry picking with his comment. It's not all that surprising he'd perform better against weaker competition is it?

We are 4 games in. He's played one bad half all year out of 8.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40892 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:44 am to
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It's not all that surprising he'd perform better against weaker competition is it?


Of course not. What is surprising though is how average he is against P5 teams.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 12:45 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:48 am to
Again, one poor half. Small sample size has skewed the numbers. He also had about 9 drops in the WVU game.

It's irrelevant though. He very clearly has the most arm talent of any QB in the league, with the possible exception of Eason. He's in a good system, and his WR have started hanging onto the ball and making plays.

Won't be much doubt by the end of the year.
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