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re: Who is Kentucky's biggest rival in the SEC (B-Ball)
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yeah for me it's definitely Tennessee. frick UT.
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:40 pm to STLhog
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Is Florida actually a program now or is it Donovan?
Not sure we will really find that out until Donovan leaves, although given our commitment to being an all-around great athletic department I have confidence UF will continue to be a major player in college basketball. The foundation is in place to continue the success.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:40 pm to BigBlue8Titles
It's interesting that of the pre-1992 SEC members, only UT, Vandy, and UGA have played UK more than Bama has.
Congrats on your program's success, but how 'bout giving the rest of the SEC a chance from time to time?
Congrats on your program's success, but how 'bout giving the rest of the SEC a chance from time to time?
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Considering Kentucky has played Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Alabama, LSU, etc for roughly 100 years. The shot clock era started in the 1970s (50 years ago). I'm not saying Arkansas isn't one of Kentucky's rivals, but "most historical"?
That's Tennessee. Always will be. Tennessee gave Kentucky all they could handle in the 60s and 70s and then again during the Pearl era.
Fair enough. Tennessee it is. Let's see how Tyndall last's.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:43 pm to Spread
Alabama and Kentucky had some wars in the 1970's and 1980's. Kentucky was 23-13 from 1975-1990 against Alabama (Alabama was ranked in 12 of the 36), which in basketball is about as close as anyone gets.
Played in the 1982 SECTCG, 1986 SECTCG, 1986 Sweet 16, 1992 SECTCG.
Played in the 1982 SECTCG, 1986 SECTCG, 1986 Sweet 16, 1992 SECTCG.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:44 pm to bgator85
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Not sure we will really find that out until Donovan leaves, although given our commitment to being an all-around great athletic department I have confidence UF will continue to be a major player in college basketball. The foundation is in place to continue the success.
why was UF so crappy for years before Donovan? They had a few good ones with Lon, just because football was so big?
I'm asking honestly, not being a smart arse.
Does Billy retire there? At 49, I saw somewhere just how far off he actually is from getting anywhere near 1000 wins. He'd have to coach into his 70s. I think its NBA or Florida for him, and he already tried that for like a day.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:45 pm to STLhog
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why was UF so crappy for years before Donovan? They had a few good ones with Lon, just because football was so big?
They weren't good in much of anything consistently before the 80's.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Alabama and Kentucky had some wars in the 1970's and 1980's.
Isn't that the truth. I grew up watching those battles between Wimp and Joe B. Bama always had an elite big man in the 80s, ala Robert Horry or Derrick McKey. Wimp had personality which really spiced up the rivalry. I see the 70s/80s as the SEC's golden years. You had Wimp, Sonny Smith, Hugh Durham, Dale Brown, the Ernie and Bernie show, and UK was up and down enough that all of these teams had years when they won the conference and had success in the NCAAs
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Played in the 1982 SECTCG, 1986 SECTCG, 1986 Sweet 16, 1992 SECTCG.
Please don't remind me
I remember Bama winning in places like Rupp and Pauley Pavilion... hopefully we will be able to compete with UK again soon.
Edit: and Bama beat UCLA in Pauley when the Bruins were ranked #1.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:51 pm to BigBlue8Titles
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Isn't that the truth. I grew up watching those battles between Wimp and Joe B. Bama always had an elite big man in the 80s, ala Robert Horry or Derrick McKey. Wimp had personality which really spiced up the rivalry. I see the 70s/80s as the SEC's golden years. You had Wimp, Sonny Smith, Hugh Durham, Dale Brown, the Ernie and Bernie show, and UK was up and down enough that all of these teams had years when they won the conference and had success in the NCAAs
Yep - love hearing my parents and their friends talk about the late 70s and 80s of SEC Basketball. So many characters and above all else great basketball and loud, filled arenas.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:54 pm to STLhog
Most of Florida's success seems to parallel the state's growth. The population tripled from 1960 to 1990. Air conditioning may be the single greatest thing to happen to UF sports.
I don't know if Donovan retires here or not. He's never closed the door on the NBA, it wouldn't surprise anyone if he decided to give it try one day. I think if he isn't gone within the next 5 or 6 years, chances are much better he probably sticks it out at UF.
I don't know if Donovan retires here or not. He's never closed the door on the NBA, it wouldn't surprise anyone if he decided to give it try one day. I think if he isn't gone within the next 5 or 6 years, chances are much better he probably sticks it out at UF.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 1:06 pm to bgator85
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I think if he isn't gone within the next 5 or 6 years, chances are much better he probably sticks it out at UF.
Not sure how I would feel about that. Most elite coaches are "hot" for a time and then the game moves on and they're ok but not great. Look at Roy Williams, Bill Self, Bobby Knight, Denny Crum, among others. Donovan plays a similar style to his mentor, Rick Pitino. That pressing, deny the passing lane, get deflections, shoot the 3, style was hot in the 90s and 2000s but teams have adjusted to it now. Elite coaches look at offensive and defensive efficiency and recruit and coach accordingly. Louisville and, to a lesser extent, Florida, have rosters that are extremely quick and athletic, but neither team can shoot and neither has any concept of a good flow in their offensive game. Compare to Cal or Coach K who have players who can shoot and who also instinctively understand the game and are two steps ahead of everyone else on the court.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 1:15 pm to BigBlue8Titles
We certainly aren't going to encourage Donovan to look elsewhere. I don't agree with your assessment of him. His teams are typically very efficient offensively, I think this is the first team not in the top 20 in some time. I think we have seen him adjust his roster according to the type of talent on the team. This year we can't shoot anywhere near as well as we thought going into the year so we are forced to lean on our athleticism.
This post was edited on 2/13/15 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 2/13/15 at 3:42 pm to BigBlue8Titles
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UAB 2-3
Posted on 2/13/15 at 4:03 pm to BigBlue8Titles
Who cares... College basketball is a joke.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 4:04 pm to BigBlue8Titles
The correct answer is: Whoever is hot at the time. Of late that has been Florida. They seem to be tailing off, though.
There have been blazing hot rivalries with Florida, Tennessee, Vandy, and LSU (my favorite).
There have been hot rivalries with Arky, Auburn and Bama.
There have been rivalries with UGA, Ole Miss and Miss State.
USC and A&M have tweaked our noses a couple of times but nothing to instigate a rivalry.
When Mizzou rights their ship I predict a rivalry with the Tigers. Arky, LSU, Vandy and Tennessee are on the horizon, too.
There have been blazing hot rivalries with Florida, Tennessee, Vandy, and LSU (my favorite).
There have been hot rivalries with Arky, Auburn and Bama.
There have been rivalries with UGA, Ole Miss and Miss State.
USC and A&M have tweaked our noses a couple of times but nothing to instigate a rivalry.
When Mizzou rights their ship I predict a rivalry with the Tigers. Arky, LSU, Vandy and Tennessee are on the horizon, too.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 4:07 pm to LSUNV
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Not sure anybody can claim a rivalry with UK because UK pretty much has a wide series advantage on everybody but the new guys. Rivalries are generally teams with a close series advantage or proximity neither of which makes a good fit for any other SEC team
Agreed. UK is in alone at the top of the SEC. As much as Bama owns football we definitely have competition and rivals. But UK's real rivals are in the ACC.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 4:13 pm to BigBlue8Titles
Historically, UT, UF and Vandy. In the recent past of course Arkansas has given the 'Cats occasional fits. During the Dale Brown era at LSU it was definitely the Tigers. During a fifteen year stretch from '78 to '93, Brown's Tigers averaged a victory per season against UK. Pretty sure that's the best stretch by one team and one coach against the greatest SEC round-ball program ever.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 4:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Alabama and Kentucky had some wars in the 1970's
Alabama's three year run of winning or sharing the SEC title from 1973-1974 thru 1975-1976 is one of the SEC's most underrated achievements.
Kentucky won the head to head in '75 denying Alabama the opportunity to play the first round game at home. At least that year the 'at large' berth started. The year before Alabama tied Vandy with Vandy winning both games and Alabama sat home as co-champ with the Mideast Regional at Tuscaloosa.
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