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re: Who cheats more? Freeze or Saban?

Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:30 am to
Posted by mls4bama
albertville,al
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:30 am to
sure you do!!
Posted by GoRebsGo!
Member since Nov 2012
185 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:37 am to
Saban doesn't cheat, the REC does it for him.
Posted by GoRebsGo!
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:41 am to
The final weapon in Saban's recruiting arsenal is his wife, who was once a cheerleader for the Idamay Black Diamonds. When a prospect takes an official visit to Tuscaloosa, he and his family will typically spend time with Terry Saban, or "Miss Terry" as everyone at Alabama calls her, including Saban himself.

Elegant, refined, an adept conversationalist and as warm as a living room fireplace on a winter's night, Miss Terry is the maternal figure over the entire program. She hosts a recruiting party after the A-Day game each spring at the Sabans' sprawling home on Lake Tuscaloosa, which is a few miles north of campus.


Didn't Freeze get popped for hosting a catered breakfast for a recruit? Funny how that works.
Posted by Jlf235
Orlando
Member since Jun 2016
232 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 2:56 pm to
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Look how mediocre Bama was before he got there and now he just reels out number one classes every single year.


The mediocre program that had triple the Sec championships than any other team before Saban got there? Need some clarification
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:07 pm to
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The mediocre program that had triple the Sec championships than any other team before Saban got there? Need some clarification


Don't bring that truth in here. Most of the posters don't know football existed before the 21st century.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:17 pm to
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The AJ Johnson thing was overblown. Just a physcho ex pressing false charges.



It's still going through the courts. The defense has been trying to get the phone records/social media stuff that both girls just happened to delete and claimed to have broken phones when it was asked for.

Those texts can show intent and may well clear AJ and Williams but I don't know if I'd say it was all overblown. We don't know enough yet.

However, the title IX stuff was completely overblown and about procedure in the first place -- not the university doing something nefarious but rather did every 'i' get dotted and 't' crossed procedure.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:30 pm to
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Who cheats more? Freeze or Saban? by Kenny Orange


If only we had a way to keep score, like Number of Level I infractions , or something
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:39 pm to
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Funniest thing is this UT fan doesn't even realize why they were mediocre before Saban.


Bandwagon Butch Jones fan or still in junior high.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:39 pm to
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If only we had a way to keep score, like Number of Level I infractions , or something



How many Chargers = an L1 infraction?
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2963 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:40 pm to
Didn't Freeze get popped for hosting a catered breakfast for a recruit? Funny how that works.

Was that an official visit for the recruit?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:44 pm to
One is going to go down as tGOAT. The other didn't win shite and is on the verge of having his program carpet bombed back to irrelevancy by the NCAA after only 5 years.

I can't tell you which one cheats more, but I can tell you which one cheats better.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1434 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:44 pm to
No, sir. YOU are the delusional one. Enjoy the scenery of college sports and quit yer bitchin' when someone else has your number. It is NOT LSU that is the only one to be whipped by "Bama. Just as with the Bear, few have the parts in place to beat them. I don't like it either! I don't care where the players come from either. Unlike the days of the Bear, there ARE limits on signings and scholarships and 'Bama (Saban) is NOT the only ones to "process" players.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:46 pm to
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How many Chargers = an L1 infraction?


Idk. Would we need to break it down into scoring levels based on the severity of the infraction?
Interesting
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:46 pm to
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I can't tell you which one cheats more, but I can tell you which one cheats better.



Well yeah we can all say who cheats better. TBH, what gets me about the whole Freeze/OM situation is just how arrogant and downright stupid Freeze and OM regarding their cheating. Their carelessness and arrogance begged for an NCAA investigation from the very beginning.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:50 pm to
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Idk. Would we need to break it down into scoring levels based on the severity of the infraction?
Interesting



Definitely and I think we have to treat an L1 charge as greater than a Charger since it comes from an investigatory body while still taking into account said Charger. Could be a fun offseason diversion.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:53 pm to
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Definitely and I think we have to treat an L1 charge as greater than a Charger since it comes from an investigatory body while still taking into account said Charger. Could be a fun offseason diversion.


This could be fun, but we all know that one guy gets complete by-laws written and enacted in response to his actions.......and the other is CHF
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:55 pm to
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Didn't Freeze get popped for hosting a catered breakfast for a recruit? Funny how that works.

Is this the breakfast where Freeze orchestrated transportation for the recruit through a booster and said booster attended the breakfast too?

But the booster is head of Fellowship of Christian Athletes, right?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:57 pm to
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This could be fun, but we all know that one guy gets complete by-laws written and enacted in response to his actions.......and the other is CHF



True. We might consider using a handicap to make up for the difference in intelligence.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:09 pm to
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Who cheats more? Freeze or Saban?
YES
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9112 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:57 pm to
Saban by a mile.
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