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re: Which SEC teams will be Better, Worse, Same this year?

Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:32 am to
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:32 am to
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well Auburn is due their inexplicable down year following success

it is a pattern with you guys
Auburn lost 3 sec games from 2004-2006.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:34 am to
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Was it down? The conference finished with 7 teams in the AP top 25 and a 7-3 bowl record.


Exactly. The SEC is never down.

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Auburn- worse


Explain? Don't see any reason they wouldn't be as good.

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They had horrible team chemistry last year. No motivation after winning two titles in a row, and 3 of the last four. Some coaches and players had to be shown the door. The problem has been rectified.

This is complete and utter bullshite. You really think a frickin Saban coached team would be allowed to be unmotivated?

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Kiffin is a darned good Offensive coach.

Based on what? Has he ever been successful without Sarkisian's hand holding?

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A lot of good teams, no great ones

LOL at you thinking Bama/Auburn were not great teams.

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Basically Bama was untested last year until the end of the season.

How? Texas a&m?

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The defense is stacked and they will keep the team in the games

Is it? You guys lost Barrow and both DT's and Loston.

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I'll believe it when I see it.

Florida's offense couldn't be any worse.

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Georgia-worse

How in the hell could UGA be worse?

Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:37 am to
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Our QB situation is fine. We have a gatorade player of the year, and 2 4* elite eleven QBs on the roster. One juts needs to nab that starting spot.

So what you're saying is they're all good HS players who haven't done crap at the college level? Heck, some have been awful so far at the college level.

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They just need to mesh.

Hard to do quickly.

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RB is also fine, we have Jalen Hurd (5*) and Treyvon Paulk (4*).

Great more unproven players.

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we have AJ Johnson (all-sec) as well as Curt Maggit (All SEC Freshman, medical redshirt last year)

So Maggit wasn't a starter last year? Right so as I said that's 2/3 of the LB gone.

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as well as some talent coming in.

You might as well have just written this.

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Not to mention, we will have one of the best WR corps in the SEC this year,

You guys didn't have a WR get 500 yards receiving last year. They're talented but completely unproven.

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a very solid group of DBs.


Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26500 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:39 am to
In terms of 2013 wins versus 2014 wins:

EAST

Florida - Better (5+ wins)
Georgia - Better (9+ wins)
South Carolina - Worse (10 or less wins)
Tennessee - Same (exactly 5 wins)
Kentucky - Better (3+ wins)
Mizzou - Worse (11 or less wins)
Vanderbilt - Worse (8 or less wins)

WEST

Alabama - Same (exactly 11 wins)
Arkansas - Better (4+ wins)
Auburn - Worse (11 or less wins)
LSU - Worse (9 or less wins)
Ole Miss - Better (9+ wins)
Mississippi State - Better (8+ wins)
Texas A&M - Worse (8 or less wins)
Posted by All4Qtrs
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:39 am to
Daylight Saban Time must be fuking everyones morning up. tRant is looking like a shite-show on this board...
Posted by beaver
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Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:42 am to
Goddamn...you're like 16 aren't you? And you became an Alabama fan in 2008 right?
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:48 am to
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So what you're saying is they're all good HS players who haven't done crap at the college level? Heck, some have been awful so far at the college level.


One of them beat USCe, the other one broke his leg and couldnt play, and the other one got thrown into the worst stretch of our season (@Bama, @Mizzou, Auburn) as a true freshman.

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Hard to do quickly


agreed

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Great more unproven players.


Marlin Lane got over 500 yds as a backup and avg 5.3/rush. Not great, but not unproven. The other 2 are true freshmen, true, but very hyped up, especially Hurd.

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So Maggit wasn't a starter last year? Right so as I said that's 2/3 of the LB gone.


Maggit wouldve started, he's the best LB on our team. I know that's irrrelvant to your point, but the dude is a stud. He will contribute in a big, big way, especially teamed up with AJ. We have plent of other LBs on the roster, we have nothin to worry about there.

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You guys didn't have a WR get 500 yards receiving last year. They're talented but completely unproven


True, but Marquez North, Pig (if he returns), Von Pearson (#1 JUCO WR), and Josh Malone (#1 TN WR, #5 in nation) will be the most raw talent out of any WR corps in the SEC this year.

As for the DBs, i said solid, not great. Cam Sutton and BRian Randolph will be the anchors.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:50 am to
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MSU expected to be better this year.
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OM expected to be better in 2014.
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Manziel injured in game. TAMU's D should be much improved. Overall, same as last year.
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Arkansas will be better,
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USC should be the best in the East this year.
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(fluke)
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(fluke)
So every one of Auburn's opponents will be either the same and/or better, yet Auburn will either be the same and/or worse?

Sounds legit.

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AU 35 -Ark 17 Game closer that score.
LOLLLLL

If you're going to throw out these little nuggets, why not include Auburn was up 27-9 on Ole Miss half way thru the 3rd? Or Auburn was up 37-17 going into the 4th against UGA?

Oh, that's right, you're a moron.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26500 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:51 am to
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True, but Marquez North, Pig (if he returns), Von Pearson (#1 JUCO WR), and Josh Malone (#1 TN WR, #5 in nation) will be the most raw talent out of any WR corps in the SEC this year.


Posted by All4Qtrs
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Member since Nov 2013
1056 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:53 am to
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Oh, that's right, you're a moron.


this!
Posted by Won3ofTheLast5
Member since Mar 2014
370 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:55 am to
Ole Miss, MSU, Bama and UGA games were all very close last year, and are all on the road this year. AU swaps UT for USC. A lot of tossup games for AU this year.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:55 am to
Serious as hell

#WRU
Posted by Meno's Paradox
Member since Apr 2013
453 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:56 am to
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The SEC was down last year

Compared to when and using what metric? 2010 was down, no doubt, but 2013 was about the same as the previous two seasons with the exception of top 10 teams fro the SEC.

Percentage of conference teams in a given category listed in parenthesis.

2013 - 7 top 25 teams (50%), 4 top 10 teams (29%), 3 top 5 teams (21%)

2012 - 7 top 25 teams (50%), 5 top 10 teams (36%), 2 top 5 teams (14%)

2011 - 5 top 25 teams (42%), 4 top 10 teams (33%), 3 top 5 teams (25%)

2010 - 6 top 25 teams (50%), 3 top 10 teams (25%), 1 top 5 team (8%)

2013 had the lowest percentage of top 10 SEC teams in the previous 3 seasons. However, it had the 2nd highest percentage of top 5 teams and tied for highest percentage of top 25 teams (though, to be fair, half the conference has been in the top 25 most of the time the past several years).
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:57 am to
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So what you're saying is they're all good HS players who haven't done crap at the college level? Heck, some have been awful so far at the college level.


Worley had a couple of pretty good games strung together before his injury last year. All of the QBs were in their first year in the system...so, the two QBs who saw significant time last year should be better prepared to perform on Saturday.

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Great more unproven players.


Along with the two Freshmen RB's listed, Lane also returns. While he wasn't the leading rusher, he did average over 5 yards per carry. Time will tell how the change in OL will impact the running game.

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So Maggit wasn't a starter last year? Right so as I said that's 2/3 of the LB gone.


Maggitt didn't play last year, but was practicing with the team. He actually had more starting experience than the LBs we lost to graduation. He stared 2 seasons for UT, and has 86 total tackles. This will make up for losing Sapp to graduation. The question will be whether Maggitt's knee is 100%.

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You guys didn't have a WR get 500 yards receiving last year. They're talented but completely unproven.


Receivers will definitely be better if Howard comes back. Regardless, UT did not lose a single receiver to graduation and are adding receivers who are bigger and faster than the ones they had last year. Most signs would indicate that the passing game should be improved from last year, but it hinges a lot on Howard.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:57 am to
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AU 30 -OM 22, AU had a 78 yd INT return for a TD. Game in Oxford this year. OM expected to be better in 2014.


AU was up 27-9 at one point.

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LSU 35 - AU 21 Game at AU this year


LSU has two wins in JHS since the mid 90s.

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AU 45 - TAMU 41 Manziel injured in game. TAMU's D should be much improved. Overall, same as last year. Game at AU


No JFF

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AU 35 -Ark 17 Game closer that score. Arkansas will be better, game at AU.


AU led 28-3 at one point

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South Carolina Didn't play last year. USC should be the best in the East this year. Game at AU.


Never beaten AU...aww frick it, you are too dumb.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:02 am to
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Ole Miss, MSU, Bama and UGA games were all very close last year
Why didn't you include Arkansas? Per your own statement, the game was close last year.

And per your odds, they are the favorite in next years game at JHS.

Hell, per your odds and now admitted home/away advantage, Arkansas is on equal footing with Alabama.


What I like best about all of this however, is the standard quote of "teams always get better in their second year of a new HC" has now disappeared from this board.

ETA: Oh, unless you are Arkansas, Ole Miss, UT, etc. Apparently, Auburn hit their pinnacle under Malzahn in year one with "close wins in all their SEC games."
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 10:05 am
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:04 am to
teams always get better in their second year of a new HC. Boom.
Posted by Meno's Paradox
Member since Apr 2013
453 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:05 am to
Still waiting for a response on why/how 2013 is considered "down" in the SEC. In my post outlining the conference standings in the polls the past 4 years, it was clear that 2010 was down, but 2013 looked pretty much like 2011 and 2012.

As for 2014, I think AU is the favorite to win the SEC again. I don't see them going unbeaten, but unless losing Robinson & Mason hurts more than anticipate they will still be very good.
Posted by Won3ofTheLast5
Member since Mar 2014
370 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:06 am to
Typo, should have been 60/40.

TAMU didn't get better last year from 2012. Teams adjusted to their style of play.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:07 am to
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Typo, should have been 60/40.


I see a few more.
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